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Queen street,Theatre Stores

Dennis Williams

Gone but not forgotten
Just found this nice painting by Warren Blackham.....any ideas about where and when? It's listed as New Street, but nowt else.....? Doesn't sit right with me....



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it could be new st dennis...think there was a theatre nearby but of course it may not be new st :rolleyes:

lyn
 
it could be new st dennis...think there was a theatre nearby but of course it may not be new st :rolleyes:

lyn
If it is Lyn, and I probably agree, I am just a little surprised that we have never heard of it before? At least I haven't, and there's nowt on the net or on here? Keep safe...xx
 
On the census entry it says “Back entrance to theatre” in the line above “Theatre Stores”. So maybe the front of the Theatre Stores was on another Street. Viv.
 
where exactly was queen st...i cant seem to find it on the map but go back a few pages on the 71 census and it mentions pinfold st and lower temple st bit confused at the min

lyn
 
That is today's task. :D I was just pleased last night to find the building existed.

morning jan i have to say i dont think i have heard of queens street just going to have a cuppa and get back to it:rolleyes: i wonder if it was one of those streets that changed its name also on the 71 does it say in the ward of market hall?
 
also reading pedros link it says a rare view of gt queens st as it was called at the time so most likely a name change happened looking at the old painting in the link gt queen st ran alongside new st station
 
For info, Great Queen Street became Queens Drive. Queens Drive was a carriageway through the centre of the Station. It disappeared when the old New Street Station was replaced in the 1960s. Viv.
 
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Bingo. I've found a copy in a book of an 1839 map. (Will post when I get a chance to scan it). Queen Street is marked.
It runs from back (? assuming Theatre Royal frontage was on New Street) of the theatre across Lower Temple Street. Looks as if it might have become Stephenson Street.
It is almost parallel to Pinfold Street.
By 1851 only the bit behind the theatre seems to remain. Swallowed up by New Street Station.
 
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great jan and to add ive just searched my files and found this one no 51No 51 Back of Old Theatre Royal Stephenson Street Birmingham 1901 Demolished 1902.jpg dated 1901 of the back of old theatre royal stephenson st...demolished 1902
 
Had this map saved so no idea where it came from. Dated 1839. Queen Street in red. By 1851 only the blue bit remained.
 

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thanks jan....just looking at the blue line they must have been pretty well crammed in because on the 71 census there are 10 pages of households

lyn
 
I thought that - but by 1851 New Street Station seems to have taken over the rest of Queen Street. Unless they had included the properties in Great Queens Street?
I hadn't realised it was licensed premises but I can't find it listed as such in Kelly's - at the moment.
 
CORRECTION: Nowhere near Queens Drive and it was, as Janice says, Stephenson Street. Had to look at my Godfrey map to confirm it though!

Well done, sleuths! :)

Maurice :cool:
 
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I thought that - but by 1851 New Street Station seems to have taken over the rest of Queen Street. Unless they had included the properties in Great Queens Street?
I hadn't realised it was licensed premises but I can't find it listed as such in Kelly's - at the moment.

just looking again at the 71 jan and there were courts there so that could explain so many households

lyn
 
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