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The Grapes Hotel Hill Street

Ray Barrett

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN R.I.P.
The "grapes" I'm thinking of was perhaps older,"The Bunch Of Grapes" was on the junction of Hill St.And John Bright St. in the 1950s which is long gone.Across the road was laura Dixons Dance studio ( only tea was served ) so the "Grapes" was the closest port of call for the drinking classes,during intervals.Two weeks ago was the first time I had been in that area for 50 years,so I wouldn't have known the Sam Wellar pub.
 

ragga

master brummie
Just up from the Grapes was the Gluepot ( later Sam Wellers) and next door was the Parassole.
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Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
Hi Pete

You must have used the Tow Rope at a much later time than myself (66-68) as Barry was only a regular customer in those days. I think he used to come in at that time to see a friend of his Danny who was a barman at the Rum Runner.

Phil
 

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
HI PHIL;
Barry was a full of beans character within the city of brum he was one of brums old trade fair mark if you
get my drift ; him and his other half used to come out late sleep by day and party by the night life lights was
his life and his partner whom i beleive they was married and some times he would carry his little white poodle around with him yes danny was of the same making to a degree ; and danny looked after him at all times
but barrie came out for pick ups if you get my drift ; i can say that as i know it to be true as we have been with him when he as met clients and gone and came back ; i say no more than that barrie and sue was both quite open about there sexuality even today if he was around he would not hide the fact and tell you straight
but i would only presume that he as long gone and left this plannet by pasing over unless he his drwing his pension or may be gone back to manchester where he his also well known ;
when he dressed in is out fits and all his glamour frocks and jewerely he looked the bussiness
he could have done dear old danny larue out of his proffession and so could sue she was a true good looking woman
in her glitz you would not think they was both gay people the grapes pub was a matter of about 100 yards from
the old crown pub ; the grapes ran the thursday night divorced and seperat clubs and beleive me the woman
was on the pull and only out to sponge of the men folk for a free good night out and a meal and it was back to there hubbys and you never seen them again for two weeks the beast place to pull for the older dears and women whomwas looking for toy boys was down at the albany hotel bat you could not go wrong they would buy you the meals and the drink just to be escorted thats where we used to go; i remembe sam wellers very well and the parosole
best wishes astonian alan
 

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
Alan

I knew Barry from Balsall Heath long before the Tow Rope, when he used to come in the local cafés and pubs with a cross dresser by the name of Paul or Pauline as he preferred to be called. You had to be very smart to know that he wasn't a woman because unless you looked very closely you couldn't tell.

To be honest I saw no harm in any of them, even if what they were was against the law still then. I always found them to be of a very generous nature and good fun to be in a company with.

Phil
 

Bob Johnson

master brummie
'Barry the Queer. There was a Barry who ran the Bamboo cafe on Springhill, Ladywood. He was areal character, blonde back-combed hair etc. He looked after us young motorbike kids with the odd free cup of coffee when we were broke. The year would be 1968. Barry would be given a lift on the back of a bike into town when the Bamboo closed for the night. He was a nice bloke. I think what made hi so likeable was because he knew what he was, didn't try to hide the fact he was gay and used it to his advantage by playing to the gallery.
 

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
Hi Bob;
i remember the bamboo very well indeed and we used to go in there and i lived right around the corner from it inking edwards rd just up the passage of spring hill passage and i can recall when it first openened up just trying to think what the premises was before it became the bamboo but any way getting on the subject of dear old sweetie barrie ; that was not the same barrie that we have been talking about its a different barrie from and used the tow rope ;
known as queer barrie ; which indeed he was a gay fellow andhe would openly tell you so but as we have said he was known in london and manchester ; for reasons we can not put a surname to him on here but what i can do if if helps you his surname began with the letter P SO ITS BARRIE - P ? And any other members on the forum whom knew him would
know his surname but i can not mention as i knew him very well;
best wishes astonian alan
 

poolpit

proper brummie kid
The "grapes" I'm thinking of was perhaps older,"The Bunch Of Grapes" was on the junction of Hill St.And John Bright St. in the 1950s which is long gone.Across the road was laura Dixons Dance studio ( only tea was served ) so the "Grapes" was the closest port of call for the drinking classes,during intervals.Two weeks ago was the first time I had been in that area for 50 years,so I wouldn't have known the Sam Wellar pub.

That’s the one I Remember , also there was another pub a few doors up from Laura Dixon’s on Navigation street that we also used in the interval.
 

elbel

New Member
Hi this is a bit of the stab in the dark, but i'm trying to find out if The Grapes a pub that was on the corner of Hill Street and Severn Street ever had cellars? I think it must of but can't find any evidence of this....
 
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