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cornishbrummie

proper brummie kid
Hi Astonia I have read your thread to my husband and he is very chuffed, His grandad was Watty's brother John Green.My husbands father used to take Watty out in his car when Watty was too old to drive.That is how my husband remembers him. He does not know any of Watty's family which is a shame. I have done some research on him for our family tree,and we hold the family bible with his name written in. His father Walter had a pub in Eyre street , but he died ,and his wife died shortly after and all the children were split up which is very sad. I know he was a very generous man. best regards Lizzie
Hello. Watty Green is/was my granddaughter's 2xGreatGrandfather - her dad Adam Green (partner to my daughter) is Wattys great grandson (descended via Watty's son Louis - who sadly died in 2015 at the grand old age of 94! - and his son Andrew, who tragically died much younger, at just 43, in 1996). Great to 'meet' you! Not heard before about the children being split up following walter's death. I'd be interested to learn more, so I can add to my granddaughers family history :)
 

cornishbrummie

proper brummie kid
Hello. CornishBrummie! Louis was my uncle. My Father was George Green. I'm trying to figure out who you are as we are trying to put the family tree together. Please message me if you prefer to remain anonymous on the forum.
Cheers,
Julian.
Hi. Very belated reply to your message, which I have only just found. I myself am not a 'Green'. My connection comes via my granddaughter; her dad is Adam Green (b1984); son of Andrew (1953-1996) who was the son of Louis (1920-1915) your uncle. Hope that makes sense and fits the jigsaw together!
 
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cornishbrummie

proper brummie kid
hi Julian ,I am the wife of John Green ,grandson of Wattys brother John. I have the family tree on Ancestry,where the bible can be seen. I will send you a PM with my Email. Best regards Busy Lizzie
I too would love to see the bible ( am on ancestry) As mentioned already, my granddaugther is wattys 2x great granddaughter - her dad, Adam Green is Watty's great grandson via his son Louis.
 

Julian

proper brummie kid
Hi. Very belated reply to your message, which I have only just found. I myself am not a 'Green'. My connection comes via my granddaughter; her dad is Adam Green (b1984); son of Andrew (1953-1996) who was the son of Louis (1920-1915) your uncle. Hope that makes sense and fits the jigsaw together!
Thanks CornishBrummie. I didn't know Andrew that well before he passed away but am more acquainted with his brother Robin. Since my move to Canada we only been able to stay in touch via email and exchange family photos over the internet.
 

Julian

proper brummie kid
hi Julian ,I am the wife of John Green ,grandson of Wattys brother John. I have the family tree on Ancestry,where the bible can be seen. I will send you a PM with my Email. Best regards Busy Lizzie
Hi Lizzie, I am looking for the PM that you mentioned in which you were kindly sharing pictures of the family bible so that i could see the family tree. I'm still unfamiliar with the site so maybe I just haven't found it yet. Please advise.
Cheers,
Julian.
 

Astonian

gone but not forgotten
Hello bizzylizzie Here is a picture of the man himself along with a life long friend of his ,namely Albert [ Bonner ]hollond ]they are coming out of the crosskeys pub many many years ago,bonner is on his left and of course watty with his malacca stick he was always seen with over the years , i had pleasure meeting them both and the reason i say that i lived locally and was for many years a daily punter at there shop where he kept on springhill ladywood and secondly i lived right next door to bonner he was a chimnney sweep for the area he also was a famed pigieon fancier and won numerous prize but they grew up to gether and bonner was a book runner for watty they took it in turns apparently andon the one day its was watty turn to run he never did so young bonner done it and he got pinched for it just like to mention that the cane you can just about see but also he is missing from is scarf his pin please find watty green senior bonner was born in stour street 1907 so you can gage the years bonner all is life never moved awy and the stweard street pub is behind the steward st school springhill ladywood and incidently his sons was my close friends from boyhood billy and phillip best wishes Astonian;;;;;
 

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Greendogg84

New Member
Thanks CornishBrummie. I didn't know Andrew that well before he passed away but am more acquainted with his brother Robin. Since my move to Canada we only been able to stay in touch via email and exchange family photos over the internet.
Hi Julian, only just joined this site as was randomly searching family members looking into history. Know my partners mom contacted you in December 2018 as she mentioned it ages ago.

Really great to read about the family history and see some old photos. Know my Uncle Robin (Watty's grandson) has done a family tree, need to get around to having a good mooch at it. I'll let him know about this site too, he'd find it interesting.

I've also found out, via random Google searching, where Watty and Julia are buried (a bit morbid I know but also interesting as I'm not great with family history). I may make a visit and lay some flowers. All I know about the site is from what I can remember from what my granddad told me (Louis Green) before he passed away, and that the site/gravestone was vandalised years ago. The gravestone was damaged but half of it still stands to this day. Weirdly there is a picture of it (again found it through a random Google search.
 

Julian

proper brummie kid
Hi Julian, only just joined this site as was randomly searching family members looking into history. Know my partners mom contacted you in December 2018 as she mentioned it ages ago.

Really great to read about the family history and see some old photos. Know my Uncle Robin (Watty's grandson) has done a family tree, need to get around to having a good mooch at it. I'll let him know about this site too, he'd find it interesting.

I've also found out, via random Google searching, where Watty and Julia are buried (a bit morbid I know but also interesting as I'm not great with family history). I may make a visit and lay some flowers. All I know about the site is from what I can remember from what my granddad told me (Louis Green) before he passed away, and that the site/gravestone was vandalised years ago. The gravestone was damaged but half of it still stands to this day. Weirdly there is a picture of it (again found it through a random Google search.
Hi Greendogg84, I used to visit Watty and Julia's gravesites on Sundays during the 1970s with my cousins. The gravestones were both still intact at that time. I have seen the damage to the gravestones in photos and it is quite upsetting; I live in Canada now so I can't visit them so easily.

I haven't seen Robin for years but if both you and he contact me via a personal message I can share hundreds of family photos with you.

Cheers,
J
 
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Julian

proper brummie kid
Hi Lizzie, I am looking for the PM that you mentioned in which you were kindly sharing pictures of the family bible so that i could see the family tree. I'm still unfamiliar with the site so maybe I just haven't found it yet. Please advise.
Cheers,
Julian.
Hi Lizzie, do you still frequent these pages?
 

Radiorails

master brummie
Hello Julian,
Lizzie hasn't been here, it seems, for nearly three years. I suggest you could send her a private message. I also suggest you remove your email address from your post. Spammers will likely use it.
I hope you get in contact with her.
 

Radiorails

master brummie
I never heard of a penny being 'a brown' but as the photo is the 1920's that is probably the reason.
However, a penny was worth a lot in the past. I am sure many will remember people putting them in gas and electric meters. The company employee who emptied the meter usually counted the money near the meter and for some reason there was always a refund it seems.
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
I think the reason was that the meters were set for a penny to release a certain quantity of gas or electric. When set,they would release the same amount if the price went up (or even down), so enough money had to be inserted so that he householder had paid for the gas used and was not given an extra bill. The difference was refunded
 

Morturn

Super Moderator
We moved house in 1959 and that had a 1d meter. Mom was always complaining "the gas has gone" so we has a 6d and 1/- meter fitted. My mom was always strapped for cash, so would use her collection of foreign coins when the need arose.

It was of course the ultimate in recycling. The gas man would give her the coins back as part of the refund, who she blamed on my younger brother for messing with the coins in the meter.
 

Radiorails

master brummie
When you have called on folk who usually had more week than money there is hardly any reason for non payment that you never heard before. One woman in Totnes frequently said she had needed to buy a tv licence. I pointed out that this was the fourth one she had bought that year and that no matter how many tv's you had only one licence was required. ;)
 
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