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The Buildings of Birmingham, Past and Present (Second Series)

Lady P - are any of the children one of your parents ? Wonderful to have a family photo like this showing how they made a living. Viv.
 
what a stunnning photo pen i missed it first time round sold tea and coffee next door...pen do you know what number the shop was??

lyn
 
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Lady P - are any of the children one of your parents ? Wonderful to have a family photo like this showing how they made a living. Viv.
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Viv, I believe they are one of Mom's older sisters and two of her brothers. Minnie, Nellie & Sam. Mom was a late arrival and was the last (by 7 years) of a family of 8. This was taken long before her birth. The little girl in front of my grandmother looks exactly like my daughter did at that age. Yes, very lucky to have this photo.
 
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what a stunnning photo pen i missed it first time round sold tea and coffee next door...pen do you know what number the shop was??

lyn
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Lyn, I have the shop at 68, New Town Row and I think a photographer must have taken more of this street at the same time as Carl Chinn has a photo of the coffee shop in one of his books and I wrote to tell him. I can't remember which book it was though unfortunately. If my memory serves me, the shop was not far from the corner of Tower / Lower Tower St.
 
thanks pen so it was close to no 73 then which was shillcocks boot repairs and is where the fa cup was stolen from in 1895 ish but it sounds like your shop was on the other side of the road...maybe if mike spots this he would post us a map showing no 68

lyn
 
thanks mike i have this map that shows the post office before it became corbetts paints and also this photo think pens rellies shop would have been where the waste ground is..pen if you look at mikes map you will see the white lion pub marked just a few doors down from the shop...posting a photo of that as well in case its of interest to you

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In Kelly’s for 1900, 1908 and 1913 No.70 Newtown Row is down as Coffee Rooms.

For 68 it is Samuel Wolley second-hand clothes dealer. Harry Ward, licensed broker, and for 1913 Mrs Fanny Wolfe, furniture dealer.
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Yes. That's the spot. Samuel Woolley was my grandfather. I do have the maps and picture somewhere but it's good to see them again. I do remember talk of the shop where the cup was stolen from being close to the furniture shop. What I really like about the picture is the little group of children on the left getting into the shot. Lovely!
 
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The Buildings of Birmingham, Past and Present (Second Series), printed and published by Thomas Underwood, Castle Street, High Street, Birmingham (believed 1870).

A copy of this has recently come into my temporary possession. I am wondering if this is a publication well known amongst Birmingham historians. It contains some nice etchings dating from the early 19th century of notable (and some not so notable) Birmingham buildings and streets, about 23 in all. If they are likely to be of interest to members I'll scan and post them in this thread. Could you give me some indication please?

Chris

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There are a lot of barrels of different sizes in the courtyard. And is that a woman drawing water? For laundry ? Or something else ? Viv.
 
Edward Smallwood is listed in directories as being at The Leather Bottle , 222 High St, Deritend in the 1862 1867editions., but not the 1868 one. Mrs Caroline Smallwood is listed there in the 1858 edition . The Three Crowns is next door at 221 and is listed in the 1862 directory, but not the 1858 or 1867 editions (though he is at the Fruiterer's Arms in Gibb St in 1858 (Remember date ism publication , not survey, date)
 
Houses in Edgbaston Street, 1869

Personal note:

Oh, for the presence of Google Streetview so that we could rotate the view and look up and down this street!​
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In it we would see a tavern called The Green Man at No.43, run from the 1830s by my great-great-grandfather Isaac Myers (ca 1792-1848). He had come there after having followed the trade of Victualler at No. 11 New Inkleys, possibly at a tavern named The Talbot. Isaac seems to have had premises, and perhaps a home, in Pershore Street, just round the corner, as well. (Isaac's wife Rachel died in 1846 at no. 46 Pershore Street). Isaac himself died at 53 Edgbaston Street - at the age of 56 from a diseased liver, which I suppose is not too surprising - so it does look as though they moved about a bit or possibly owned or rented several properties.​
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Isaac's eldest son Maurice (b. ca 1826) took over the Green Man at his father's death in 1848. His youngest, Henry, my great-grandfather, tried to make his fortune by embarking upon the incredible journey to California during the Gold Rush.​
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Elsewhere in Edgbaston Street, at no. 19, lived a family of pawnbrokers named Aaron. They were almost certainly related as members witnessed several deaths in Isaac's family.​
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It would be interesting to know the street numbers of the premises shown in this sketch if anyone can pin them down.​

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Aris’s May 1868 shows No 60 advertised To Let...

[Added...May 1867, Order of discharge granted to Edward Thomas Reynolds of 60, Edgbaston Street, Mill Manufacturer.]

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In the 1868 Kelly's above Number 61 seems to be occupied by Dennis Ashford, Shopkeeper and George Hemming, Maltster.
 
They are lovely drawings though, and in many respects better than a photograph - always in focus!

Maurice :cool:
 
I think this must have been Thomas Instone at no 162, though this may be a missprint as there are Instons who are smiths in Bartley Green at this time
 
Malt Shovel Inn, Smallbrook Street, 1869.

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Edited: Street name corrected. Sorry!
 
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No . Spent ages trying to find a Sparkbrook St because I only read the post title. But now know there was a Spark St and it had a pub at no 13, only it was called (in 1940) The White Hart
 
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