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Birmingham Street Name Origins

This is most likely a misspelling of Erasmus Road, which runs from Stratford rd (almost opposite Kyotts Lake Rd) and Aukland Rd (at its Kyrwicks Lane end), which although some distance away came under Aston registration district at the time.
To quote from https://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-s/sparkbrook/ :
(A) country house, Fair Hill, stood between Priestley Road and Larches Street. This was the home of Joseph Priestley until it was destroyed in the 1791 Birmingham Riots. Priestley was minister of the New Meeting in Birmingham and an experimental scientist with his laboratory at Fair Hill; he experimented with electricity, isolated oxygen and invented carbonated water. After the riots Priestley left for the United States and never returned. A stone tablet on the side of No.10 Priestley Road commemorates the man and the site of his house. See 1791 Birmingham Riots.
The house was rebuilt as the Larches and the home of Dr William Withering and later of Thomas Attwood and subsequently of the Galton family. It was demolished c1871. Erasmus Road marks the route of the drive to the house. The site was built over with housing in the 19th-century and again in the 1960s.

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Hi Mikejee and Lloyd
I am grateful to you both. I would never have got near Erasmus.
Now, another leaf on the tree can be confirmed.
Regards to you both.
OldBrummie.
 
can anyone help me decifer where this road is please and what it is called, I can understand Bordesley. cant decide if its a work house or something else ? hope street maybe ?
im looking at the Loyd family on the right hand side
 
Hi Antisaban
Theophilus vaughton ,a captain in royal marines was over looked in the street naming but across the mosely road and close to camp hill
Erasmus road brings to mind Erasmus Harris caught on, whom was a Lieutenant in the 11 the regiment of infant try
The Vaughtons seem to have been related to the Oughtons or Houghtons family from the early Eighteenth centuary and the nearby Houghton road
Highlights this bond,
It is probably Named after a vaughton. Houghton as for Vaughtons Hole,,,,,,,, that was filled in and disappeared a.long with pudding Brook
Happy new year to you for 2015 best wishes Astonian,,,,,,,,,
 
Hi, I lived in Turnberry road, great barr, and most of the roads around were named after airfield`s ( Duxford, Thetford, Foden, Mildenhall and Turnberry.
 
simmo said:
Hi, I lived in Turnberry road, great barr, and most of the roads around were named after airfield`s ( Duxford, Thetford, Foden, Mildenhall and Turnberry.
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hi simmo thanks for that info i had no idea those roads were named after airfields.....i used to live in cramlington road during the 70s no idea where that name came from though

lyn
 
Yes Lyn, Cramlington was also an airfield in north east of england, Calshot and cardington also RAF bases.
 
simmo said:
Yes Lyn, Cramlington was also an airfield in north east of england, Calshot and cardington also RAF bases.
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well i will go to the foot of our stairs simmo...just goes to show we are never too old to learn.

cheers

lyn
 
Hi All,
Does anyone please know why Princip Street is so named? I doubt if it has anything to do with the man named Princip who murdered Arch Duke Ferdinand therefore triggering off the First World War.

Old Boy
 
Extracted from Bill Dargue's post #24 above

Princip Street B4
Or Princep Street was laid out by 1792 and named by 1820 after the family who owned the land from the early 18th century.

Interestingly, it's suggested on the net that the name seems have Bosnian/Serbian connections. Viv
 
Does anyone know the origins of Court Lane and Goosemore lane, Short Heath end of Erdington? Is anybody keeping a record of the streets that have disappeared as I notice a lot of references to streets/roads etc which have gone because of an areas modernisation.
Bob Davis
 
H Bob, William Hutton stated that Gosta Green derived from Goose stead and it`s use was in decline.
He was wrong on both counts,and the name survived into the later 20th century .
Gossemore Lane, Erdington was originally spelled Gosemore and has the same derviation as Gosta Green.
Best wishes Astonian
 
Astonian said:
H Bob, William Hutton stated that Gosta Green derived from Goose stead and it`s use was in decline.
He was wrong on both counts,and the name survived into the later 20th century .
Gossemore Lane, Erdington was originally spelled Gosemore and has the same derviation as Gosta Green.
Best wishes Astonian
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Very many thanks
Bob
 
Hi DaJ
Its a long story to be told but Mott street is just across from Great Hampton street
William mott of Lichfield, who is named in a Document relating to all the small brook lands in birmingham in 1808
so thats how we got mott street
I do have the book relating to william mott and his siblings of marrige and the smiths family had no children
Nor did the two children of there youngest brother
General richard vyse of lichfield whom married Ann Howard he fought in wars that followed the French revoloution
of1789 and five years later distingguisshed himself in the battle of LE CATEAU In1794
Where he led two brigades of heavvy calvery
the vyse lands in and around Hockley were developed in the early years of the nineteeth century
by the generals son Richard williaM Howard vyse
Of stoke park in Buckingham hence Howard street ,Buckingham street ,which along with spencer street
and northhampton street, and vyse street which along with spencer street was described as newly laid out
In A Deed from 1827 he is also remember in pitsford street and northhapton street
which highlighted the family in pitford, Northhampton
hope that as given your answer to mott street i never started from the generations of his relations
whom was thomas smallbrook and william colmore and william colmore died afew years later
after a court case despite there was bad blood between them
best wishes Astonian,,,,,,,
 
Astonian said:
Hi DaJ
Its a long story to be told but Mott street is just across from Great Hampton street
William mott of Lichfield, who is named in a Document relating to all the small brook lands in birmingham in 1808
so thats how we got mott street
I do have the book relating to william mott and his siblings of marrige and the smiths family had no children
Nor did the two children of there youngest brother
General richard vyse of lichfield whom married Ann Howard he fought in wars that followed the French revoloution
of1789 and five years later distingguisshed himself in the battle of LE CATEAU In1794
Where he led two brigades of heavvy calvery
the vyse lands in and around Hockley were developed in the early years of the nineteeth century
by the generals son Richard williaM Howard vyse
Of stoke park in Buckingham hence Howard street ,Buckingham street ,which along with spencer street
and northhampton street, and vyse street which along with spencer street was described as newly laid out
In A Deed from 1827 he is also remember in pitsford street and northhapton street
which highlighted the family in pitford, Northhampton
hope that as given your answer to mott street i never started from the generations of his relations
whom was thomas smallbrook and william colmore and william colmore died afew years later
after a court case despite there was bad blood between them
best wishes Astonian,,,,,,,
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Thank you very much Astonian. I can now do more research.
 
DAJ said:
Thank you very much Astonian. I can now do more research.
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Astonian said:
Hi DaJ
Its a long story to be told but Mott street is just across from Great Hampton street
William mott of Lichfield, who is named in a Document relating to all the small brook lands in birmingham in 1808
so thats how we got mott street
I do have the book relating to william mott and his siblings of marrige and the smiths family had no children
Nor did the two children of there youngest brother
General richard vyse of lichfield whom married Ann Howard he fought in wars that followed the French revoloution
of1789 and five years later distingguisshed himself in the battle of LE CATEAU In1794
Where he led two brigades of heavvy calvery
the vyse lands in and around Hockley were developed in the early years of the nineteeth century
by the generals son Richard williaM Howard vyse
Of stoke park in Buckingham hence Howard street ,Buckingham street ,which along with spencer street
and northhampton street, and vyse street which along with spencer street was described as newly laid out
In A Deed from 1827 he is also remember in pitsford street and northhapton street
which highlighted the family in pitford, Northhampton
hope that as given your answer to mott street i never started from the generations of his relations
whom was thomas smallbrook and william colmore and william colmore died afew years later
after a court case despite there was bad blood between them
best wishes Astonian,,,,,,,
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Astonian, you mention in your reply information in a book you have. Is a Martha Mott or Samuel Mott mentioned in your book?

Thanks again.
 
Hi DaJ
IF you bear with me for the next hour i will take another look for you,
There is a few names mentiond regarding his family ,
If you recall i said i have missed alot of the begining of the motts to get the bit you was requesting to know
about the naming of mott street
Its not much trouble for me to pick up my book and check with the names okay DaJ
DAJ, I know you are researching the mott name i presume, aand if you are ,I dont know whether or not
thereis a Mott family with history was in brum and there is mott in worcestershire whom are high flyers
and still holding rank and file within this day society and these are the ones i know as well
but any way come back on in about an hour and i will say whether or not the two names
you required was in there, best wishes Astonian,,,
 
Hi DaJ
I have just been reading through the book and finished, but sory i have to say there was none of the two names
you mentionioned of the Motts family, the only mott mentioned was william mot
and the one only samuel christian named was of the colmores
all the other christian names mentionioned was the colmore sibblings
and they was the ones creating the new hall estate namely new hall street and surrounding street
best wishes Astonian,,
 
Astonian said:
Hi DaJ
I have just been reading through the book and finished, but sory i have to say there was none of the two names
you mentionioned of the Motts family, the only mott mentioned was william mot
and the one only samuel christian named was of the colmores
all the other christian names mentionioned was the colmore sibblings
and they was the ones creating the new hall estate namely new hall street and surrounding street
best wishes Astonian,,
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Thanks again.
 
I came to this thread via Janice's link. Thank you Janice. I know that Catherine Street above is not the one in Aston but I always knew the Aston one as Cath-er-yne Street (to rhyme with thyme). We always called Lionel Street, Lion-ell Street too. Was that just our family or did anyone else know them as this? I wonder what other odd pronunciations there are in Birmingham?
 
I do not believe it is specific to Birmingham and therefore is geographically wider but there is a tendency to emphasise many names. One that comes to mind is Edgbaston which I guess should be pronounced in one syllable i.e. Edgbaston. However it always seems to be two in the Midlands i.e. Edge-baston.
There are many others I am sure.
 
An interesting thread, but suspect it's not easy to find given the (nice) title. But if no-one objects I'd like to re-name it. Viv.
 
Have changed it to Street name origins. For reference there's also a companion thread on Place name origins here https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/place-name-origins.18409/

Both useful threads for the Birmingham researcher. I shall extract out street name discussion (moving it to here) from the place names thread so that it's clear that each thread covers that specific aspect.

Viv.
 
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Well billy here is afew more names you can check out if you want listings of street renamed
present name formerly
Hadley street Albert street [1887 ]
Jakeman street Raglan Street
Laurel road cotteridge Standley road [1902]
Lindan road Bournville Stocks drive
Moor lane Erdinton Braggs road
Moor end lane Erdington Harbour tree road
New summer street New church street [1880]
 
Ethel Street is situated in central Birmingham and was next to the Forum cinema. I often used to wait in Ethel Street, just off New Street, for a 32 bus back to Hall Green. But who was Ethel? I have looked at some of the Links but could not find any information. Thanks. Dave.
 
Despite having four of Carl Chinn's Streets of Brum can't help, the "lady" doesn't get a mention. Like you I knew it as a place buses went to and a place to queue to get into "The Forum"
 
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