St Phillips Church Cathedral

[Astonian]

Would like to ask our experts who have knowledge of our churches and acess to the libary records ; what happenend to the grave and slab stone
that was a resting and burialy site grave that you passed when walking through the church yard from colmore row end entrance
It was registered as the smallest peron born and registered in birmingham around that period of your request
I do realize that there was an improvement to the grounds but as happenened to the person named and thee bones was they removed to another postion or not
where is the head stone now ? ,also does any body recall the little old man whom sat every morningin in the passage way whom was blind drawing pictures on the pavement in chalk in all types of weather for a penny coin he was thee for donkeys years at least from my boyhood to man hood he kept a little tiny dog with him
did anybody knew where he came from but i would have though we would keep the record of the smallest person in history of brum to show tourist on
there visit to our great church st phillips catheneral have a nice day every body best wishes Astonian;;

 

[rosie]

I hope this isn't too far off topic, her name was Nanetta Stocker, I don't know if her grave is still visible.
rosie.

 

[horsencart]

I see an attempt was made to dissemble the weather vane but had failed when I left, I suspect that they may try another day (unless the had another go at it after I had left?) https://www.flickr.com/photos/dofartshavelumps/14804210736/

 

[horsencart]

I see that as they were unable to dismantle the weather vane that they have had to put the Gold leaf paper on site not the best of conditions to do it

 

[Wendy]

St Philip's church yard 1932.

 

[Jayell]

I wonder if they're having their lunch or feeding the pigeons!

 

[A Sparks]

Love the pram and the lady's cloche hat - very fashionable!

 

[Vivienne14]

Like this view of St. Phillip's. Not sure what the building is to the left. Viv.

 

[Phil]

Vivienne

To me it looks like what is now the Café Nero on the corner of Waterloo St, but back then was the Ocean Assurance Building on the junction of Waterloo St & Temple Row.

 

[Astoness]

nice one of st philips viv...

cheers

lyn

 

[Wendy]

St Philip's Cathedral churchyard 1938.

 

[Astoness]

what a cracking photo wendy...

lyn

 

[Phil]

Another sunny day c1951 in St Phillips Churchyard, can you spot the lone male?

 

[Vivienne14]

Both Wendy's and Phil's photo's have trees and shrubs. All gone now I think. Viv.

 

[Key Hill Brian]

Even most of the grass has gone - great tracts of hardened soil where hordes hang out during the day - waste of all that work - may just as well tarmacked the place for the care the public gives it nowadays!
Bri

 

[BELGRAVE]

One "l" surely: The Cathedral Church of Saint Philip.

 

[rosie]

It's a shame it doesn't look so pretty now, It's hard to imagine my some of my ancestors are buried there. As Brian says a lot of the grass is dead and hardened. I have often thought there isn't much respect for the Churchyard.
rosie.

 

[Vivienne14]

Two old views of the gardens around the Cathedral. They looked nicely landscaped, once a pleasant place to spend a bit of quiet time. Viv.

 

[Radiorails]

Noticeable, to me, is the tidiness of the girls hair - and of course the slightly older lady in a hat.

 

[carolina]

This is an excellent video of Birmingham Cathedral (St Phillips) telling of its history

https://historywm.com/cathedraltour/

 

[Astoness]

This is an excellent video of Birmingham Cathedral (St Phillips) telling of its history

https://historywm.com/cathedraltour/

fantastic video and so informative...thanks for posting it carol its well worth a look at

lyn

 

[BELGRAVE]

Given the iconic nature of the building, and its environs, it's a pity that posters on this thread seem unable to refer to the place properly. ( or am I being too pedantic?)

 

[Key Hill Brian]

Belgrave - do you mean us Brummies puting 2 'L' s in it?
We do that with a lot of words - some I' best not mention - it's obviously our verbal 'eritage - like no 'H''s!!!!!!!!!

 

[Astoness]

i am also a little confused as well belgrave...if it is just a case of adding 2 ls instead of one then that could just be a typo error something i quite often do.. either way the sentiment of our posters is the same..

lyn

 

[carolina]

Well said Lynn.

 

[Radiorails]

Well if you have some "L's" to spare Bristolians may appreciate them. Some in that city add an L to the ending of some words, such as fiestal, operal and so on. I guess all places have their language idiosyncrasies. Why in Devon it is not uncommon for a F to sound as V, S to sound as Z and some place names really catch out the tourists.
Well you have two Cathedrals in Birmingham. The older being St. Chad's where an Archbishop has his cathedra and St. Philps where a Bishop has his cathedra. Yes, I know St. Philip's is the older building but did not become a cathedral until 1905.

 

[Phil]

An easy enough error as there are two ways of spelling Philip or Phillip if you like, the one "L" method being the less common I'm told is Greek which probably explains why I only have one "L" in my name as I was named after the Duke of Edinburgh. Though I have seen "St Philips" spelt both ways in many different places some of the offical.

 

[Vivienne14]

Flippin' L . Glad we've been able to clear that one up!! Viv.

 

[BELGRAVE]

An easy enough error as there are two ways of spelling Philip or Phillip if you like, the one "L" method being the less common I'm told is Greek which probably explains why I only have one "L" in my name as I was named after the Duke of Edinburgh. Though I have seen "St Philips" spelt both ways in many different places some of the offical.

Thank you Phil.

I'm just being pernickety in my old age- it doesn't matter really- except to the Philips of this world, of course. But ecclesiastically, I think , the name of Saint Philip, Apostle and Martyr, is always rendered in English with the single "l". This is taken from the original Greek, as you say. The double "L" rendering comes from its use as a surname.

 

[Vivienne14]

When St Phillip's was built the funds were not sufficient to build the tower. So Richard Gough secured the funds for completion of the tower in 1725. Something which you rarely see at ground level is the weathervane atop of the tower. It has a boar's head, part of the crest of the Gough family. Viv.