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i dont know if you have seen this paula, but on ancestry there are several family trees for your family.
they seem to have aaron smith b. 1775 b. bham and jane chambers b. 1771 b. b.ham as the parents of eliza smith. some have 1 or 2 further generations backwards. i cant tell you if these are correct though.
Thanks for the look up, I have not seen the tree on ancestry with Eliza's parents, I tend to want to find out and prove myself as I know some one took some details off my tree and they are following the wrong parent, I like to get the cert's etc to prove who they are.
I will follow up on the parent's though and check. Thanks for the marriage look-up I was hoping it would have the parent's but with the year I know it can be hit and miss.
I have a lot on the Winkles side as another researcher got in touch and he related to that side but then I am with the Clayton's where the Winkles married into the Clayton's so we managed to swap information and help each other out.
is it possible that some one could a check on the st martins reg for a weding at that church betwennthetwo peoplei have mentioned
it took place i beleive in the 1925 30
if this is possible i really appreciateit and thank every one for there valuable time on this best wishes astonion
many thanks for your look up i do beleive they was marrid in st martins around the 1939 to be a fact
and she had a brother named phillip hinton whom in 1955 lived in number 3 back of 132 ickneild square beleved to be a beatrice hinton
so i presume she was either a sister or wife and my mothers name inmcluded the beatrice name along with her or christian names so i wonder whether or not there is a connection and adding the berthavictoria saga to the wedding of her and ernest jelf could conclude any think
is it possible you may be get to access on that or may be some one out there is related to the phillip hinton today whom may be able to throw some light on it as to his the mother
sheramany thanks again for your valuable time best wishes astonion ps , this phillip hinton was born in 1909 and could be the half brother to my mother
joyce ivy beatrice jelf the one and only child to bertha victoria and ernest jelf thanks astonion
You appear to be my distant cousin!
Ann Winkles born 1823, to John Winkles and Eliza, is my ancestor. She married Hubert Cornelius Jessop, a muffin and pikelet maker.
I'm from Handsworth and still have family there.
hi guys ;
ihope you do not mind me asking but does any of your winkles are elated to the winkles family that lived oppersite the deers leap up in king standing s i have a good old friend going back years by the name of johny winkles and his mother was a nurse at st margretts hosptital
in great barr ; best wishes astonian alan
wonder if anyone can help with this please...on my grandparents marriage cert of 1928 it says they were married at the parish church in the parish..does anyone have an idea as to what church this would have been and where?? they were living at digbeth at the time...my first thought was st martins but wouldnt it have said st martins on the cert...i can scan and post the cert if it would help
Lyn, I would have guessed at St Martins too. Can you read the name of the vicar/Clergy? If so it might be worth googling the names and hope something shows up.
I have just found on one site that 1924-1948 Cannon Guy Rogers was at St Martins - although I would have thought more than one person performed marriages.