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St Andrews Church Bordesley Green

just wondering if this is the same church that my gt gt gt grandfather married at in 1855..i think it is..says on the marr cert..st andrews church in the new parish of st andrews bordesley...

lyn
 
I would think so Lyn. My grandparents were married there in 1904 - the cert says 'Marriage solemnised at St Andrew's Church in the Parish of St Andrew, Bordesley, in the County of Warwick'. That's nearly 50 years after your cert so the parish wouldn't still be new! John
 
I would think so Lyn. My grandparents were married there in 1904 - the cert says 'Marriage solemnised at St Andrew's Church in the Parish of St Andrew, Bordesley, in the County of Warwick'. That's nearly 50 years after your cert so the parish wouldn't still be new! John
 
thank you jukebox..i thought it was that one...thanks david for the pics

lyn
 
will scan and post my cert it lovely to see them.....if the marriage is at st andews church it should say in the parish of bordesley..

lyn
 
Nick - are you sure that is St Andrews and not St Aidans? St Aidans is now All Saints in Small Heath which at the time was in 'the vast parish of Aston'. This church is only a few yards from the addresses of the bride and groom as shown on the certificate. The right hand side of your cert isn't shown - was Francis Pearse the Vicar or a curate? See https://www.allsaintsonline.co.uk/information/history/history.html

You're right jukebox it is St Aidans and Francis P Pearse is on the certificate, well spotted:encouragement:

Nick
 
I understand that it was demolished in 1985. My great grandfather was vicar there at one time (Rev John Harold Richards - the chap with the big moustache in some of the other photos!)
 
Re: St Andrews Church Bordesley

Yes, the chap with the moustache is indeed Rev Richards. He was my great great grandfather. His beloved wife Amy died tragically young from cancer. I have a beautiful painting of a design for a stained glass window at St Andrews in her memory. I would love to know what happened to that window - my great uncle was offered it when the church was demolished in 1985 but could find nowhere to store it. I would love to know if someone else took the window and if so, where it is now. It would be nice to find the owner and tell them the story behind it too. So if anyone knows - please let me know! Thank you.
 
Re: St Andrews Church Bordesley

Yes, the chap with the moustache is indeed Rev Richards. He was my great great grandfather. His beloved wife Amy died tragically young from cancer. I have a beautiful painting of a design for a stained glass window at St Andrews in her memory. I would love to know what happened to that window - my great uncle was offered it when the church was demolished in 1985 but could find nowhere to store it. I would love to know if someone else took the window and if so, where it is now. It would be nice to find the owner and tell them the story behind it too. So if anyone knows - please let me know! Thank you.

hi emma..good to welcome rev john richards gt gt grandaugher to the forum...what a shame that there was no one in the family who could have saved the stained glass window from the church...i can only think that it was demolished along with the rest of the church but if anyone knows different please let us know..would love to see the painting you have of it though..

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Re: St Andrews Church Bordesley

I will see if I can take a photo of the window and post here... it may jog someone's memory as well. Even if someone has a photo of the window, I would love to see it!
 
Slightly baffling pc. Men and boys digging up the churchyard on Easter Monday 1902. Wonder why? Viv.

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I am not sure whether there is still an interest in St Andrews Church, but here is an aerial photo (courtesy of "Britain from above". The Church is at the bottom of the photo and was taken during the demolition of the surrounding area.

My wife and I were married at the Church in 1969.

The school shown is St Andrews (Ada Rd) and Birmingham City Football Club can be seen at the top.

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hello reddi thanks for that photo..britain from above is a great site and it has been keeping me happy for a few days now...having such fun with the hockley..lozells and handsworth areas trying to spot landmarks and streets long since gone and some of the shots are so clear.....i have already found my old schools farm st and lozells girls..lucas gt king st and villa st and have tagged them on the photos...actually i have even found a shot of piddock st hockley..this is a street i so far could not find any photos of..

lyn
 
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Very interesting - thank you Reddi. I see from your photo that the church tower appears to have a flat top whereas the second photo in post no 30 shows a spire. I've had a quick look through all the posts and couldn't see a mention of this (or maybe I missed something!) - has anyone any info?
 
From British History Online:

46. ST. ANDREW, Bordesley (St. Andrew's Rd.), the fifth and last of the churches built by the Birmingham Church Building Society (the Ten Churches Fund), was designed by R. C. Carpenter in the Decorated style and was consecrated in 1846. (fn. 3) It was of red sandstone and comprised chancel, nave, north aisle and tower with spire. The structure was seriously damaged by storm in 1894; the spire was removed and the church restored in 1901. (fn. 4) A parish was assigned out of St. Peter and St. Paul, Aston, in 1846. (fn. 5) The living, which became a vicarage in 1889, is in the gift of the bishop and public trustees alternately. (fn. 6) Part of the parish was transferred to St. Basil's, Deritend, in 1896, and part was taken to form the parish of St. Oswald, Small Heath (1889). In 1907 the parish was enlarged by part of St. Saviour's, Saltley. (fn. 7) An iron chapel licensed for public worship was later consecrated as St. Oswald's, Small Heath. St. Giles's mission church, Green Lane, has been licensed since 1905; St. Matthew's mission church, Garrison St. (formerly a mission of St. Saviour's, Saltley), in Garland Street until 1925, was transferred to St. Andrew's parish in 1907, and was closed during the Second World War. (fn. 8) During the last decade of the 19th century this church's property and morale seem to have been in poor condition. (fn. 9)
 
From British History Online:

46. ST. ANDREW, Bordesley (St. Andrew's Rd.), the fifth and last of the churches built by the Birmingham Church Building Society (the Ten Churches Fund), was designed by R. C. Carpenter in the Decorated style and was consecrated in 1846. (fn. 3) It was of red sandstone and comprised chancel, nave, north aisle and tower with spire. The structure was seriously damaged by storm in 1894; the spire was removed and the church restored in 1901. (fn. 4) A parish was assigned out of St. Peter and St. Paul, Aston, in 1846. (fn. 5) The living, which became a vicarage in 1889, is in the gift of the bishop and public trustees alternately. (fn. 6) Part of the parish was transferred to St. Basil's, Deritend, in 1896, and part was taken to form the parish of St. Oswald, Small Heath (1889). In 1907 the parish was enlarged by part of St. Saviour's, Saltley. (fn. 7) An iron chapel licensed for public worship was later consecrated as St. Oswald's, Small Heath. St. Giles's mission church, Green Lane, has been licensed since 1905; St. Matthew's mission church, Garrison St. (formerly a mission of St. Saviour's, Saltley), in Garland Street until 1925, was transferred to St. Andrew's parish in 1907, and was closed during the Second World War. (fn. 8) During the last decade of the 19th century this church's property and morale seem to have been in poor condition. (fn. 9)

I was christened at this church, and so (I think) was my nephew.
I seem to remember coloured paving stones, but this seems very unlikely! Perhaps I'm really remembering stained glass.
 
I think I remember somewhere near there a large house, though I was very young at a time so I could be misremembering. It was a square house set back a bit from the road, and it seemed a bit out of place, too upmarket. Does that ring any bells with anyone?


A gruesome a question: when the church was demolished, what happened to the graveyard?
 
I think I remember somewhere near there a large house, though I was very young at a time so I could be misremembering. It was a square house set back a bit from the road, and it seemed a bit out of place, too upmarket. Does that ring any bells with anyone?


A gruesome a question: when the church was demolished, what happened to the graveyard?

I'm not sure about your gruesome question but I wonder if the square house you remember was the vicarage which was on Green Lane. I think it dated back to Victorian times and it was set back from the road with railings at the front. When were you (and your nephew) christened?
 
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