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Snook family

brummieland

Brummie babby
One branch of my family are Snook who originally came from Salisbury/Wiltshire but moved to Bham during the 1830's or 40's. Samuel Snook married Caroline Chinn in Salisbury on 19 Feb 1840 and had several children [George b1840, Alfred b1842, Eliza b1845, Charlotte b1847, Samuel b1848, and James] My direct ancestor is Matthew Martin Snook [sometimes called Mark] b13 March 1844 in Wiltshire. Would appreciate any information :)
 
i presume this is your ancestor in 1871 living in little green lane aston but birthplace is shrewsbury not wiltshire. what info are you looking for on the snooks?

matthew m snook 27 fitter b. shrewsbury
emma 22 b. bham
james 3 b. bham
emily 1 b. bham
 
I have checked the directories i have for Snoops, and for thje period 1862 - 1949 get the following . Note that the year given is the year directory is published, and probably refers to year before. Also, have transcribed what is written ie. if it said Snooks rather than snoo[ps that is what I've written. Am not too sure as to whether the Samuel Snoop of 1862 is the same as referred to in your post, as he would only be 14, but they did start early then !
1862 Samuel Snook, coal dealer,31 Stone yard, Deritend
1876 & 78 George Snook, furniture remover 39 Stone yard
1878 - 1883 Mark Snook, coal dealer, Victoria Road,Aston park
1880 -1888 George Snook, furniture remover, 7 Chapel house st
1883 Samuel Snook ,shopkeeper,Albion Rd, Sparkhill
1884 Samuel Snook, haulier, 79 Warwick St
1888 & 90 George Snook, thimble maker, Floodgate St
1888 ` Matthew Snook,beer retailer, 146 Berners St
1888 William Snook, Old Stone Cross Pub, 60 Dale end
1892 &1895 George Snook, Thimble and hair pin maker, Floodgate St
1892 Matthew Martin Snook,beer retailer, 21 New St, Aston new town
1892 George Snooks, private addr 195 Coventry Road
1892 - 1904 Isaiah Snooks, shopkeeper, 90 Greenway St
1895 George Snook, private addr 212 Green Lane
1896 - 1900 William Snook, private addr 110 Alston St
1896 – 1900 George Snooks, private addr St Mary’s Road,Stechford
1899 - 1921 George Snook & Co, Thimble and hair pin maker, Floodgate St
1899 & 1900 Mrs Harriette Snook,shopkeeper,139 Wilton st
1899 & 1900 George Henry Snooks, wardrobe dealer, 188 Icknield Port road
1904 George Snooks, private addr. 20 Abbotsford Road, sparkbrook
1904 James Snook, greengrocer, 20 Tower road
1908 George Snook, private addr.92 Gladstone road,Sparkbrook
1908 Herbert Edward Snook, 220 Mary st, Balsall Heath
1908 James Snook & Co, merchants, 20 Cannon St
1912 James Snook Private addr. 11 Dora road,smallheath
1912 Herbert Edward Snook, cab proprietor ,220 Mary st, Balsall Heath
1913 & 1921 Herbert Edward Snook private addr 11 Mossfield Road, Kingsheath
1913 - 1933 James Snook Private addr 94 Gladstone road.Sparkbrook
1921 Mrs Dorothy Snook, greengrocer,271 Icknield port road
1932 & 1933 George Snook, private addr.57 Addison road,kings Heath
1932& 1933 George William Snook, private addr. 24 Tennyson road smallheath
1932 & 1933 Mrs Lilian M Snook, private addr.1609 Stratford road hall green
1932 & 1933 Mrs Amy Snook, 11 mossfield road,kings heath
1932 & 1933 John Snook, coal dealer, 32 Regent Park road smallheath
1940 - 1949 Frederick Snook Private addr. 98 Corisande road, Selly oak
1940 - 1949 Harry Snook Private addr. 16 Corisande road, Selly oak
1940 -1944 Thomas Herbert Snook, Private addr 254Selly oak road,kings Norton
1940 - 1949 Walter Thomas Snook, private addr. 48 kingstanding road
1940 -1944 William Samuel,private addr, 62 Bankes road, small heath
1943 & 1944 Bert Snook, private addr. 58 Rymond road
1943 - 1949 Ernest Donald , private addr. 150 Green acres rd kings Norton
1943 - 1949 Isaiah Snook. private addr ,511 Kingstanding road
1944 Ernest Donald Snook.Private addr. 150 Green Acres Road, kings Norton
1949 Thomas Snook, Private addr . 352 Old Walsall road,Great Barr
1949 William Snook, Private addr.69 Hillaries Road erdington
Mike
 
"1899 - 1921 George Snook & Co, Thimble and hair pin maker, Floodgate St"

This George Snook (1840-1923) was my maternal step-gt. grandfather. He married two Winchcombe-born Tovey sisters (but not simultaneously!) He appears elsewhere further up the list and was the son of Samuel, coal dealer.

I have an image of him from around the turn of the century.

Chris
 
Brummieland. I knew a Snooks family from Kingstanding around about 1981. The daughters name was Debbie. The mother died about 1985. Could part of the family you are researching. Jean.
 
A Machine Tool Fitter Apprentice named Snook worked for me at BSA Tools, Kitts Green circa1953, i can`t remember his first name, i think his mother a Widow. Len.
 
thank you for the reply re George Snook b1840. I think he was the older brother of my ancestor who was Matthew Martin Snook [sometimes known as Mark?] and born 13 March 1844 died M1895. He married Emma Denston on 29/3/1868. they had 6 children and their eldest daughter [second child] married into the Morton family - which is the family I am researching

I will admit that I have not done a great deal of research on this side of the family although i did go down to Chippenham last summer and did some research at the Wiltshire & Swindon Family Centre [lovey research facilities] and think I managed to trace the family back another generation but am not really sure. On one census Matthew is down as born in Shrewsbury but the rest do seem to be Salisbury. I believe George was born in Salisbury when Samuel was an innkeeper. Carolines father was also an innkeeper in Salisbury - but I guess I am only telling you what you already know! I have put below the bits I found [and hope are correct!]
It would be brilliant to see any photos as I have none for this side of the family besides a couple of my grandparents in later years. I have never seen any other photos of this side of the family.

Samuel Snook - father = Martin Snook

Caroline Chinn [wife of Samuel] - father = Joseph Chinn and mother = Mary.
 
George Snookes, born Maiden Bradley, Witshire, 1810, was my Gt Gt Gr Grandfather. He came to Birmingham around 1830. His son was George, born 1838 in Handsworth, then Staffordshire, whose son George, born 1859 in Handsworth, fathered my Grandmother Laura Snooks.

The name has been recorded inconsistently at various times and places in and around Birmingham and South Staffs as Snook, Snooks and Snookes.
 
Thank you for the reply. To be honest I am now getting somewhat confused re this family and am now beginning to doubt any research I have done. :rolleyes:

as you say the Snook family seem to have come from the Salisbury area and last year I went to do some research down in Wilts, but the Snook surname is not uncommon down there.

I know that my ancestor Samuel Snook married Caroline Chinn in 1840 in Salisbury [marriage certificate] and on the certificate it names their fathers. Research enabled me find out that both fathers were deceased when Samuel and Caroline married, although this is not indicated on the certificate. Samuel is my ggg grandfather.

Samuel's father = Martin Snook [occupation is unclear - could be farmer or farrier].

I found a will for a Martin Snook who mentions a son called Samuel and he is recorded as being a yeoman - but still not sure if this is the correct one. the will mentions other children and grandchild by name but there is no mention of a son called George

Samuel was a Innkeeper at the 'Butchers Arms' in the market place in Salisbury from 1836 to 1842. According to the 1851 census he was then living in Wolverhampton and by 1861 was in Aston.

any clarity would be gratefully received :)
 
thank you for replying re George [1840-1923]. I think I may have got the wrong information [there seems to be several George Snook's around!] my research came up with a George who married 1] a Mary Ann Strong S1865 and had 3 children William Samuel [1866], James [1868] and Eliza [1870]

wife 2 = Elizabeth Tovey D1877 and had 2 more children and 2 step children [Caroline and George Tovey].

However, now looking at dates etc these do not really add up. Help and advice would be very welcome
 
brummieland...

George Snook (1840-1923) holds a special place in our family history even though there is no blood link. George married my great-grandmother as his second wife, and the sister of his first who had died at the age of about 37 in 1876, and with her acquired her son, my grandfather, whom he brought up. Later, when the latter's marriage failed in about 1903, he took in one of the daughters of that marriage, my mother, and brought her up from the age of about four. He was a good man.

In his own (pre-internet) genealogical research, my late brother did a little work on George and his family. I am not sure whether it does much more than repeat what you already know but I will transcribe it and post it here shortly.

Chris
 
This is the transcription of my brother's writings. George finally lived in Station Road, Knowle and named his house, not surprisingly, "Salisbury".

GEORGE SNOOK (1840-1923)

George Snook was born in Salisbury, Wiltshire, and came with his parents and brothers to live in Birmingham, although not directly.

George's father was Samuel Snook, who had various occupations; and his mother was Caroline. Samuel had been born near Salisbury about 1812, and Caroline in Somerset according to the 1871 Census. The actual place of birth was illegible, but could have been Nailsea. George was evidently the eldest of the family, his parents having married early in the same year that he was born.

The Marriage Certificate reads:

"On 19 February 1840, at the Parish Church of St. Thomas in the City of Salisbury in the County of Wiltshire, Samuel Snook, Bachelor, of Full Age, Innholder, of St. Thomas, Sarum, son of Martin Snook, Fariner, was Married to Caroline Chinn, Spinster, of Full Age, daughter of Joseph Chinn, Innholder, by Licence, according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by John Greenly."​

The Certificate was signed by both parties and witnessed by George Thomas Chinn, S. Snook, Joseph Batchelor and E. Chinn. All were literate.

The Birth Certificate of George Snook reads:
"On 27 November 1840, at St. Thomas, Salisbury, George, a Boy, son of Samuel Snook, Innkeeper, and Caroline, formerly Chinn. Registered by the Mother, of the Beast Market, Salisbury, on 30 December 1840, before William Sutton, Registrar for the District and Sub-District of Salisbury, in the County of Wiltshire."​

From the evidence of such records as are available, it seems that the Snooks left Salisbury in 1849-50, much the same time as the Toveys had left Winchcombe, but the Snook family apparently spent some years in Wolverhampton, and may not have reached Birmingham until the late 1850s. They were certainly there by 1861, as is evidenced by the Census listing taken in that year. I also detail the residual names taken from the 1871 Census, which shows differences in some of the birthplaces, and also that by then most of the family had left home.

Census of 1861
Ref. RG-9.2170 District 6 Schedule 23 Court 6 (?or 1) Stone Yard, Deritend, Birmingham Samuel Snooks (sic) Head, Marr: 48 yrs Coal Dealer Caroline " Wife " 50
George Son U/Marr 20 Horse Hair Curler
Martin " "16 Coal Dealer's Carter
Samuel " " "12 Scholar
James 10​
All were said to have been born in Salisbury, excepting
James, born Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.

Census of 1871
1 Back of House, Stone Yard, Birmingham
Samuel Snook Head Marr 58 yrs Jobbing Cart Keeper
born Maidens Bridge, Wiltshire
Caroline Wife Marr 60 born Somerset (?Nailsea)
James Son U/Marr 19 Carter Born Wolv'hampton​
Both Stone Yard and Chapel House Street (mentioned later) are names of thoroughfares which still exist, and are near Rea Street, although there is now little or no residential property remaining, and the back-to-back housing was swept away years ago.

We have already examined the record of the marriage of George Snook and Mary Ann Tovey (see page 33) on 13..................​
 
Dear ChrisM,
thank you so much for this information - now back to the drawing board! Think that somewhere along the line I have got my 'George Snook's' mixed up. Unfortunately, I think may have some other research wrong as well - but I guess that is all part of the 'fun & games' of doing family history!!

have a good Bank Holiday.
Best Wishes
Brummieland.
 
Let me know if you think I might be able to help further, Brummieland. I have further information but it is more about George's later life and about the children from his first marriage (all of whom are distantly related to me because my grandfather and they were first cousins, being the offspring of two sisters). Good luck with it all.

Chris
 
I have just discovered that Alfred Tovey who was married to Mary Ann were my Gt grandparent's on my mother's side. Alfred is recorded as a Manufacturer's clerk on the 1881 census. At that time he was 39 yrs old Mary Ann was 40yrs old. It say's that Alred came from Winchcombe, Gloucester. Mary Ann is registered as Warwickshire. Is there any more information on this family please. I believe they had 13 children who all survived.
 
crikey maggs..thats a very large family...all the best with your research

lyn
 
I have just found this site.
I wonder if the following is the kind of information that you need. In the 1891 Census there is another(?) George SNOOK, a thimblemaker, who lived at 195, Coventry Rd who was born in SAlisbury (vol VIII, p383, 1840). I have not made the link back to my own predecessors but I suspect that it is around 1811 when my Great great grandfather Henry SNOOK had a brother, George.
Any comments greatly appreciated.

Philip Snook
 
Re Alfred Tovey
He and his wife did indeed have 13 children!
Alfred C 1864,hadn't married by 1911
Edward 1866,(married Clara Elizabeth Onions 1888)
Edgar 1869,(married Emily Elizabeth Wheeler 1891)
Lydia 1870 (married Joshua James Warren 1894),
William 1871,(married Ada Hall 1892)
Florence 1873 (married William Bagnall 1895),
Laura 1875 (married James Stanfield 1897),
Ernest 1877,(married Elizabeth Hall 1897)
Grace 1879 (married William Heath 1897),
Harry 1881,(married Elizabeth Penzer 1901)
Cecil 1884,(married Elsie Powell Hunter 1907)
Arthur 1887,(married Mary Borman 1904)
Agnes Dora 1889(married Frederick James Meads 1906)
 
Do I presume it is Wesley whom I am addressing. Whatever, my research has been done at Chippenham and also via the Censuses (Censi) that are on various Genealogical websites. I'm busy, busy until July when my research will begin again. Will get back to you then. Yours Phil Snook
 
Hello,

I am a new member as of today. I have been researching my mother’s (Snook) family for some time. I happened to do a random search on my Great Grandfather George Snook and found your site and it’s a very pleasant surprise!

The threads do tie up a couple of loose ends in my own family history but as far as I can tell there were more than one branch of Snooks in Birmingham in the 1800s and with lots of common names (e.g. George) it gets vey confusing.

I’ve got lots of questions but as my first contribution I have a mystery photograph. This is a daguerreotype (I think) in an ornate ‘Union Case’ and is probably from the 1850s or 1860s. It came down through her side of the family so it could be a Snook or a Tovey

Regards

Andrew

Snook-or-Tovey-P1040327redu.jpg

(Image file size reduced by Moderator)
 
Welcome to the Forum, Andrew. Good to see a new member with Snook and Tovey interests.

My connection to the Snooks is by marriage (see previous posts) in that a George Snook was married to my grandmother (a Tovey) and was heavily involved in the care and upbringing of my mother throughout her childhood. I'm afraid I can't help with any identification in relation to your wonderful image. But shall be very interested to read your further comments and questions, as will no doubt other members.

("My" George Snook's ward, my mother, who may have only recently left his house in Station Road, Knowle, married my father exactly 100 years ago tomorrow).

Chris
 
Hello Chris & everyone

My grandfather was Edward Snook (later the Rev.) who was born 1872. I have tried to build his story. His parents were George Snook and Mary-Ann Tovey, who was Elizabeth Tovey's older sister. Mary-Ann died in 1876 and George was left with 5 children, the oldest of whom - Caroline - was 14, and the youngest - George - was a baby. George snr then married Eizabeth in 1877, and her own son George Thomas Tovey joined the family (lots of Georges under one roof!). As George Tovey was born (or rather birth registered) 1871 he and my grandfather grew up together. Caroline married George (yes!) Lewis Thompson, a builder from Knowle, and they lived in Station Rd Knowle for most of their lives, and George and Elizabeth moved into (maybe they built) Salisbury house in the same street. I've been researching the Snooks and Toveys for some time.
It would be wonderful to hear anything more about them. All you get from ancestry etc is basic facts, any insight into them as real people would be fascinating. My grandfather was much older than my grandmother, and died decades before I was born, which is why I know so little of his background.
Regards
Andrew
 
Thanks, Andrew. Very interesting. You and I are related via the Tovey line, which is a long one and goes back to Winchcombe. My late brother did a lot of (pre-Ancestry.com, i.e. the hard way, via County Records Offices and whatnot!) work on it. Have you done much research on that side of things?

I knew George Tovey (d. 1949) and also at least one Snook - Lilian, later Cole (d. 1959).

Will have a good delve and give you a proper answer over the next day or so.

Chris
 
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This is the story of two "immigrant" Birmingham families, two amongst so many who moved to the city during the 19th century because, presumably, of better prospects and opportunities. In summary:

Some time in the late 1840s the Snook family left their native Salisbury, travelled to the Midlands, possibly initially to Wolverhampton and then ended up, certainly no later than 1861, in Birmingham. Within the family was a boy, George (b.1840).

James Tovey (b. 1840) came from a big Tovey family in Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, which can be traced back to the seventeenth century. James worked in the local paper mill. But at some stage papermaking technology changed and the mill closed. James, his wife, Mary (Barnett b.1817) and their five children left Winchcombe between 1848 and 1851 and settled in Birmingham. Amongst these five children were Mary Ann (b. 1839) and Elizabeth (b. 1848).

George Snook and Mary Ann Tovey met, fell in love and married. They had five children, Caroline (b. 1862), William Samuel (b.1865), James (b. 1868), Edward (b. 1872) and George (b. 1875). Mary Ann died on 28 May 1876 of "typhoid fever and exhaustion" leaving George's five children, aged from 1 to 14 years, motherless. Mary Ann's younger sister, Elizabeth, by then with a child of her own born out of wedlock (George Thomas Tovey, b. 1871 and my grandfather) and living nearby, must presumably have offered support and the result was a marriage between her and George Snook in October 1877.

Thus to George Snook's family of five children there was added another boy (another George). George Snook Sr. raised his stepson as, presumably, one of his own. George Thomas Tovey eventually left the family home, by now "Salisbury", Station Road, Knowle, married and had four children of his own. Of those four two did not reach the age of five - a little boy of two dying in 1896 of pneumonia and a girl dying at a similar age in 1903 following an accident in the street with a cart. Perhaps those tragedies were a contributory factor to the marriage breaking up in around 1904. Of the surviving children, Elsie (b.1899) and Beatrice (b. 1902), Beatrice went with her mother and Elsie, my mother, went to Knowle to live with her grandmother Elizabeth (Tovey) Snook and her husband George Snook. My mother's story is thus completely intertwined with that of this branch of the Snooks. All of George's children were her "aunts" and "uncles" and THEIR children cousins and probably playmates. Every one of them must have been known to her.

(Within this story: George Snook's son, James, had a daughter Lilian May (b. 1895) and thus George's granddaughter. My mother was particularly close to her. I knew Lilian, always known as Dickie, well, as a child myself. A colourful character, my Auntie Dickie, who lived in a big house in Bristol Road ......I think I once met a George Snook, probably George Snr's youngest, but have little memory of this. Otherwise the passing of time and the difficulties of the war years meant that the links between my mother and her cousins gradually loosened).

George Snook provided a home for my grandfather AND for my grandfather's daughter, my mother. They both spent almost their entire childhoods under his roof and benefited from his care and protection. It is no small wonder that his name is revered in my family.


This is an attempt to present this and other subsequent information in graphic form to help understanding and to see how some Forum members fit together. Sorry it's crude and I hope it doesn't confuse, rather than clarify! (Please advise any error)

Snookand-Tovey-tree-Feb2021.jpg

Chris
 
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This means, Andrew, that - on the basis of your grandfather having been George Snook's son Edward (b. 1872) - James Tovey (1814-1890) and Mary (Barnett) Tovey (1817-1880) were our joint great-grandparents. My mother (1899-1996) must have known Edward well - he was effectively an uncle - and possibly any children of his even better.

I have a little bit of what you are looking for: some memories from my mother of her childhood with Elizabeth and George (via my late brother mainly - I only have the odd snippet myself). Also some details from Crockford's of your grandfather's ecclesiastical career. I'll keep it dribbling out. I think I also have one or two photos, not definitely identified but possibly some of the Snooks and even, highly conjecturally, one of our joint gt. grandmother, Mary, in extreme old age.

Meanwhile it so happens that I have posted today here in the Forum a picture of my mother in her early days at Knowle, very probably in the garden at "Salisbury". I wonder if it was taken by George. It's here:
Chris

PS Perhaps you could let me know, as we proceed, that you agree (or otherwise) with anything which I'm saying. Much of this information is based on the work which my late brother did in the 1980s and early 1990s by trawling through County Records, without the advantage in most cases of any scope for searchability. (Never know how he did it – he lived in Devon and most of the work on this side of the family had to be done in Gloucester and Birmingham; so much travelling, days going through micro-fiches etc etc. The ability to search online, these days, might well mean that some of his work can now be refined and added to).
 
This wonderful story ties in with my own research and the very few anecdotes passed down my side of the family. As far as I can tell my grandfather Edward was the only one to leave the Birmingham area. His story is also tinged with tragedy. In 1895 at the age of 24 he married Florence Blizard, and he became a father a year later, but Florence died very soon after the birth. Edward and baby Hilda went to live with Florence's sister Maria and her husband Frank Brain. Edward had originally been a clerk and then 'traveller' (I presume for George Snook & Co) but he decided to give up his commercial career and enter the church. He studied at Queen's College and his first curacy was at the then new Christ's Church Leyton (NE London). As an ordained priest he returned to Birmingham to officiate at the wedding of his younger brother George in 1907. In 1911 he arrived in the village of Hatfied Peverel in Essex as the the curate at St Andrew's Church, and there he met his second wife, my grandmother, and they married in 1917. Hilda was brought up by Maria and Frank but Edward was in touch with them and officiated at Hilda's own wedding in 1921. He spent the rest of his life in Essex and was Rector of Dunton when he died in a road accident in 1936.
In my research I did come across records of Lillian May Snook and George Cole, living in Bristol Rd - another coincidence as I spent 4 years as a student at the University just around the corner.

Andrew
 
EDWARD SNOOK (b1872)

My brother noted his various appointments at St. Albans, Leyton, St. Albans again, Hatfield Peverell, Brentwood, Boxted and Duntan Waylett between 1904 and some time in the 1930s. He also says that our mother told him that Edward had died as a result of an accident, whilst out bicycling. And that she mentioned the three marriages.

Edward is named as one of the two Executors of George's will.

George and Elizabeth were married for 46 years. My brother was quite surprised at the terms of the will which left everything to his five children and nothing to the widow (nor to stepson George Tovey). There was just the direction to the five children that they "should allow such share to my wife as they may think advisable in accordance with my wishes which I have expressed to them". My brother interpreted this to suggest that relationships between the couple might have become strained. I suppose that is a possible interpretation - one hopes not, of course. But to a different eye - mine - it might just have meant that George felt he had made adequate provision for her through his children, that he was aware that her own life expectancy was short (she only outlived him by a further two months, in fact) and that he wanted to ensure that his assets passed wholly to his own flesh and blood. By 1992, when my brother unearthed all this, it was too late to interrogate our mother on the subject. She did see a copy of the will but was non-committal. As he wrote: "I am sure that she always retained a sense of gratitude to the two of them for having given her a better start in life than she could otherwise have expected". Which looks to me a pretty good way of concluding the subject!

Chris
 
Andrew wrote: In my research I did come across records of Lillian May Snook and George Cole, living in Bristol Rd - another coincidence as I spent 4 years as a student at the University just around the corner.

LILIAN MAY SNOOK (later COLE)
(1895-1959, daughter of James Snook, b.1868 and Rose, grandaughter of George Snook b.1840)

I wrote a memoir for the Forum a long time ago (in a thread about Birmingham Rolls-Royces) in which Lilian ("Auntie Dickie") had a leading role. Going a bit off-topic but for what it's worth this is it:

We were very fortunate in having a source of holidays during the second half of the war. My mother's cousin Lilian, "Auntie Dickie," was married to "Uncle Ferdo", Ferdinand Cole, Managing Director of Singleton & Cole, a Birmingham wholesaler of tobacco, snuff and fancy goods. They had a weekend cottage in the middle of nowhere, tucked away down a lane, through two gates. The nearest village was Bredenbury in Worcestershire, not far from Bromyard. We had several visits there, probably in the summers of 1943 and 1944 when I was seven or eight.​
My mother and I used to get to the cottage with the help of Singleton & Cole transport which would pick us up at the Cole residence, a large house in the Bristol Road - no. 88 or 188, I think. On one occasion it was in a large Hillman or Humber convertible - with the hood up, to my extreme disappointment. The most memorable journey was however in one of the Company vans. This was a Rolls-Royce, I can only assume having been converted at an earlier stage to a van from a car. It seemed to be built like a large piece of expensive furniture and its engine ran like silk. Petrol rationing was at its height at that time, of course, and it was arranged that we should travel in the van which, by the happiest of coincidences (!), had to make an urgent delivery in the Bromyard area and had the package to prove it. It was fairly important therefore to conceal its main cargo from official view as it comprised Mother and Auntie Dickie huddled in the back with all the luggage, sitting on boxes in virtual darkness and being entertained by a large parrot and a white cockatoo in their cages. Clinging on for dear life, as were the birds - and laughing at their situation for most of the journey, as I recall. I sat up front with the driver, having been instructed to act as "the boy" in case of trouble.​
The journey was completed without incident except for passing one policeman on point duty who looked as though he was going to stop us but fortunately didn't. I remember our driver wafting air over his face with his hand in mock relief after we had gone by. I did not enjoy seeing this particular driver having any sudden surprises as I had been told previously that the reason why he, a youngish man, was not in the forces was that he had a weak heart. Even at that age I did not relish the combination of, on the one hand, his condition and, on the other, my personal well-being being in his hands.​
Auntie Dickie had been Uncle Ferdo's housekeeper for many years and they married after the death of his wife. It's a long story which I don't think is appropriate for open Forum!​
I know she had siblings and I met one of them in my teens. I THINK he was another George! Can remember little about it, though.​
Chris​
 
I have a couple of photos from around 1920 of family at a house which I had assumed was in Essex but could be Knowle, one with an unknown lady who could be Elsie or possible Gladys Thompson.
Anther coincidence re Harborne - one of my student years was spent living in Stapylton Avenue which is very close to St Peter's Church.
Another tangent - Lillian's brother was Stanley Eric Snook. Apparently he married Ethel Cole in 1939 and the Register shows he was a tobacco wholesaler. Was Ethel related to George Cole?
Not sure of the etiquette here, I don't want to deny anyone interesting history but I have some family questions, is there a private message area?
 
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