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Rubery Hill Asylum Hospital

changinman1

changinman1

master brummie
My gt gt grandad Joseph Field I have just found out this week on getting his cert of death back from the records office in brum died young ......he was 48 when he died in 1890 leaving a young family behind . But the question to anyone that might know this is .

He was a skilled man , a Gun Finisher , and he died in the registration district of Kings Norton in 1890 even though according to the census of 1880 and ones prior to that that he lived and worked in the gun quarter of the city , but he died according to the death cert in Rubery hill asylum. The first thing that sprung to mind for me was asylum.....is that not for people that were mentally ill ? . None of my family have any info on him at all . So considering that his death cert states cause of death as ACUTE BRONCHITIS .....why was he in that asylum ?????.

Confused Karl Field
 
Given that your gt gt grandfather died in Rubery Hill Hospital in 1890 I think you have to assume he was suffering from a mental health problem at the time. People rarely die of mental health problems. its usualy normal causes such as acute Bronchitis that carries them off

pmc1947
 
Does Anyone Know If I Can Get Any Info On Why My Gt Gt Grandad (joseph Field) Was In Rubery Hill ....im Hopin He Was Admitted Due To Physical Illness Rather Than A Mental One.......is There A Record Of Admissions Anywhere ???? Cheers Karl Field
 
For Colin B

Thanks For The Link To The Archive Doo Dah......do I Have To Apply For Info About My Gtgt Grandfather Or Can I Look It Up ??

Cheers Karl
 
if my grandad died at rubery hill hospital ....do i take it that he would be buried there as they had a cemetary there ///id love to try and find his grave.....
 
You will have to go to the Central Library in Birmingham to look up the records to the Asylum. Ask also if there are any records for the cemetary.

Good luck Karl.:)
 
The problem with Asylum records is the hundred year closure rule. My great aunt died at Hatton Asylum 1909 and I did manage to obtain the records with proof of who I was. My family lived in Aston so I was suprised to find her in Hatton in Warwick. Sadley she was only an epileptic but in those days there were no drugs!
 
di poppit

di there used to be a hospital at Hatton didnt there,...so was your relly sent there for epilepsy....and I suppose in those days it was considered that she was mental............
 
Karl, it was my relative who died at Hatton not Di's. The building is still there but its now upmarket appartments.
If your relative died in 1890 at Rubery Hill Hospital the records would be open thats if they have survived.
If I were you I would contact central library and ask if they hold the records. They will do a search for your relative if the records are there but they do charge. I hope this helps. Wendy.
 
Hi Karl, As Colin B as already said & i agree, not all patients were in
due to mental problems, the Hospital had various sections & changes of
usage over its time period(s).
Played a cup football match there in the 80,s, some of the Doctors & male nurses were a bit mental !!!, one said "don,t worry if we break your leg !!"
lol :Aah: "We can fix it for you here" :) ,

ps Karl, i have a couple of "Field" relatives (marriage-links) from
Summer Lane -Aston/Hockley area early 1900,s circa
Will send you some info later, Ok & cheers John Y
 
message for john young

john maybe u r right.....im very very interested in your rellies in bham....can you send me some data asap pleeeeessae....also is the only way of getting patient record through the birmingham central library ?.
 
Msg for Karl

Hi Karl, B,ham Library probably your best bet for Rubery Hospital records
1890 is well clear of the 100 year rulings discloure info etc but as prior
postee,s have said,,, hopefully those particular records have survived
And been sent to the archives undamaged/listed etc.
Have you got this particular persons Death Cert?, if not i would
suggest well worth obtaining, cause of death may well explain the need
for the sojourn in the Hospital & give you more info to trace :)

ps Not near my "Field,s" file at present (at Werk,,uurgh!)
will catch up exchange info next day or so,,, Cheers John Y 8)
 
Asylums

My Grandfather, David Clarke, died in the City Asylum. Lodge Road, the cause of death being paralysis for two years. Presumably these were places not just for mental illness but also for long term problems.
 
Personally, I can't see that it matters whether a relative had a physical or mental illness. Whichever, it's no reflection on their character.
 
roberta

can anyone tell me is ther a hospital called (all saints) or is it a street, or was it dudley road hosptial. please...
 
Winson Green Asylum Lodge Rd Winson Green opened in 1850 In later years it was renamed All Saints Hospital. It closed in April 2000.

Rubery Hill Asylum was opened in 1882 as an overflow hospital for Winson Green Asylum.

pmc1947
 
My wife's grandmother spent most of her adult life as a patient at Ruberry Hill Asylum having contracted sleeping sickness while working at cadburys in early 1920's. She died in the hospital in 1965. How do I find records of her and is it possible that she was buried in the hospital cemetry if there was one?
 
Hi Tim:)
I live just down the road from Rubery Hill Hospital (as was) I know that some of the people who died there were buried in the hospital grounds.couldn't say where the records would be but i am sure someone on the forum will be able to help you..good luck
Maggie
 
Someone I'm researching was resident at '1959A Bristol Road South, Rubery' at the time of their death - can anyone confirm that this address was Rubery Hill Hospital please? - he did have dementia, it was one of the causes of death.
 
Tim

I think Birmingham Archives may hold the records for the hospital, but due to the 100 year closure ruling you would have to get special dispensation from the Area Health Authority to view them.

If you contact the Archives - if they do hold the records then I am sure you will find the staff most helpful and will more than likely advise which records to view and also help you fill out the paperwork.

Regards
 
In 1964 1897 is the last listed no, and then there is the telephone exchange and then rubery hill hospital (unnumbered). so I think your assumption is correct
Mike
 
Update: I have now found out that my wife's grandmother, Phyllis Jones, died at 283 Lodge Road, Winson Green and not at Rubery Hill as I previously thought. She had been a patient at Rubery Hill but was transfered at some time before her death. I think Winson Green was a hospital or home for people with mental problems. Can anyone confirm the name of the institution and any other information please?
 
Hi There Changinman
Just read your thread about your gg grandfather my grandfather was also in that hospital it was a mental hospital and was later intergrated to hollymoor hospital my grandfather died there and i am having great difficulty getting hold of his medical records i think it was an experimental hospital and the information i need for my family tree is under a 100 years seclusion order i have to apply in writing to the birmingham archives in birmingham and they will ask the the powers that be if they can give me the info i need,that is the process i am going through at the moment sorry cant be of more assistance but anything else you need to know give me a shout i will try to answer
take care
regards
 
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