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Rubery Hill Asylum

barry bayliss

Brummie babby
Hi There Changinman
Just read your thread about your gg grandfather my grandfather was also in that hospital it was a mental hospital and was later intergrated to hollymoor hospital my grandfather died there and i am having great difficulty getting hold of his medical records i think it was an experimental hospital and the information i need for my family tree is under a 100 years seclusion order i have to apply in writing to the birmingham archives in birmingham and they will ask the the powers that be if they can give me the info i need,that is the process i am going through at the moment sorry cant be of more assistance but anything else you need to know give me a shout i will try to answer
take care
regards
 

sistersue61

master brummie
Barry, it takes ages to get any info, both my nan and my aunt were in-patients at Hollymoor and I had great problems getting info even though I had birth and death certs for them both and my dad is their only remaining next of kin that we know of, buthave eventually been told that the info will be transcripted soon and passed on to us.
Also,in the latter years, All Saints was a centre for drug rehabilitation, very sad place to work at times, but on the whole clients were good, just a few violent episodes.
Sue
 

joshuaandpeter

New Member
Hi all,
Am new to this site so not sure if this has been asked before. I have a relative who died in the above asylum in 1926 aged 23 and was wondering if any records where available to check. I live about 150 miles away from there so no chance of visiting unfortunately.
Thanks in advance
Dawn
 

Jess_1986

proper brummie kid
Hello all - I hope at least some of you are still active on this thread even though I am evidently years late in my response. I have recently posted about Rubery Hill Asylum as I am doing my MA dissertation on it - please see my recent post.
I am actually active in the archives currently and am spending a lot of time looking through medical casebooks, admission records, discharge notes etc. etc. What I hope to do is construct patient narratives from these records. If there is anyone who you would like information on I am sure I can help you and do some research for you. I am looking at Rubery Hill from when it opened 1882 until 1914 due to the 100 year closure of information act so anything you want about a friend or relative in that time period i would certainly be happy to help you - perhaps you have some old letters or family photos of that particular relative which you wouldn't mind giving me copies of - I can then include them in the narrative I construct.
Hope this helps and someone sees it - sorry it is so late.
Jess
 

changinman1

master brummie
Hello all - I hope at least some of you are still active on this thread even though I am evidently years late in my response. I have recently posted about Rubery Hill Asylum as I am doing my MA dissertation on it - please see my recent post.
I am actually active in the archives currently and am spending a lot of time looking through medical casebooks, admission records, discharge notes etc. etc. What I hope to do is construct patient narratives from these records. If there is anyone who you would like information on I am sure I can help you and do some research for you. I am looking at Rubery Hill from when it opened 1882 until 1914 due to the 100 year closure of information act so anything you want about a friend or relative in that time period i would certainly be happy to help you - perhaps you have some old letters or family photos of that particular relative which you wouldn't mind giving me copies of - I can then include them in the narrative I construct.
Hope this helps and someone sees it - sorry it is so late.
Jess


Hi Jess.......this is a surprise ...id love to know more..........this is what I originally posted ....... below
My gt gt grandad Joseph Field I have just found out this week on getting his cert of death back from the records office in brum died young ......he was 48 when he died in 1890 leaving a young family behind . But the question to anyone that might know this is .

He was a skilled man , a Gun Finisher , and he died in the registration district of Kings Norton in 1890 even though according to the census of 1880 and ones prior to that that he lived and worked in the gun quarter of the city , but he died according to the death cert in Rubery hill asylum. The first thing that sprung to mind for me was asylum.....is that not for people that were mentally ill ? . None of my family have any info on him at all . So considering that his death cert states cause of death as ACUTE BRONCHITIS .....why was he in that asylum ?????.

I have actually found the admissions book a few years ago in bham library but cant remember what it said but the book was the original from 1890 which was pretty amazing as I saw his signature.....I would love to know more about him........I have spoken to a historian thereafter and tehy told me that a lot of people that worked in the gun quarter in Birmingham in these little back street gun workshops were so unregulated and this meant that they were extremely noisy and apparently the constant noise of the manufacturing and quite often the guns actually deploying meant that this sent guys mental and kind of shell shocked and were therefore sent to Rubery hill mental asylum. I would love to get to the bottom of this one. Thanks Karl, please feel free to call me ...07881260240
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
hi changinman...it is not a good idea to post either your email address or private telephone number on open forum..leaves you open to emails being hacked or crank callers...you can of course do this but its a risk...you can always edit out your tel number and send it to jess via our private message system which is just that...private between the sender and the recipient...

all the best

lyn
 
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pjmburns

master brummie
According to the Lunacy Patients Admission Register on Ancestry as Joseph Field was admitted (to Birmingham asylum) on 2nd July 1883 and discharged 7 April 1887 but there had been no improvement. The cause of death may not be related to why he was in the asylum. I understand that some chemicals involved in many trades (before Health and safety) ould cause forms of insanity. There is also a Joseph Field admitted on 14 March 1889 and died 5 April 1890 (this says Worcester asylum - I assume Rubery). No other details are given on the record.

Janice
 

Jess_1986

proper brummie kid
Hi Jess.......this is a surprise ...id love to know more..........this is what I originally posted ....... below
My gt gt grandad Joseph Field I have just found out this week on getting his cert of death back from the records office in brum died young ......he was 48 when he died in 1890 leaving a young family behind . But the question to anyone that might know this is .

He was a skilled man , a Gun Finisher , and he died in the registration district of Kings Norton in 1890 even though according to the census of 1880 and ones prior to that that he lived and worked in the gun quarter of the city , but he died according to the death cert in Rubery hill asylum. The first thing that sprung to mind for me was asylum.....is that not for people that were mentally ill ? . None of my family have any info on him at all . So considering that his death cert states cause of death as ACUTE BRONCHITIS .....why was he in that asylum ?????.

I have actually found the admissions book a few years ago in bham library but cant remember what it said but the book was the original from 1890 which was pretty amazing as I saw his signature.....I would love to know more about him........I have spoken to a historian thereafter and tehy told me that a lot of people that worked in the gun quarter in Birmingham in these little back street gun workshops were so unregulated and this meant that they were extremely noisy and apparently the constant noise of the manufacturing and quite often the guns actually deploying meant that this sent guys mental and kind of shell shocked and were therefore sent to Rubery hill mental asylum. I would love to get to the bottom of this one. Thanks Karl, please feel free to call me ...07881260240

Greetings Karl and many thanks for your response. I will certainly look into this for you and give you a call/drop you an email with the findings. I note from other posts he was in the admissions book which is great, what I will try and do is track him in the medical case books as they contain much more detail, although the Birmingham library do not have the full set but fingers crossed they have your relative. They are often very hard to understand due to the hand writing - I have been using two magnifine glasses and exercising every ounce of patience I have with them.

Just for clarity can you confirm for me his full name and dob, date of admission and death (aware below but in case the other poster has got mixed up - as they state he was discharged but you stated he died there...wanted you to confirm that). Do you have any photographs of him or old family letters from or about him?

Many thanks
 

pjmburns

master brummie
If you read my post carefully - he was released from Birmingham (in 1887) then admitted in Worcestershire (in 1889) where he died.

Janice

I have also found a possible entry in 1850. The images give the admission numbers.
Joseph Field 1850.jpgJoseph Field 1883.jpgJoseph Field 1889.jpg
 
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sez

master brummie
Hi Jess

If you are still researching by any chance, my ancestor, Clara Smith, was admitted to Rubery Hill on 20th July 1904 and died there on 23rd April 1906. She had a weak and feeble heart.

If you find anything I'd be very interested to hear from you. I don't have photos of her, but have a few facts and I've recently found a relative so we are in the process of swapping information about the family.
 

ARippin

master brummie
Hi Jess

As its over a year I'm just checking you are still a member of this forum?

I've just located a great uncle that was a patient at Rubery Hill on the 1939 Register. I've been trying to piece together his life for my aunt, his niece.

I'm aware he's deceased (he was born in 1906) but also conscious of the 100 year rule and I'm guessing I need to contact the archives in Birmingham to gain any sort of access. Just wondered what your thoughts were and if you had any pointers/advice/contact names emails etc.

I've been in touch with 'Sez' on this forum about a different institution so I'm very aware of the restrictions.

Many thanks in anticipation.
 

changinman1

master brummie
According to the Lunacy Patients Admission Register on Ancestry as Joseph Field was admitted (to Birmingham asylum) on 2nd July 1883 and discharged 7 April 1887 but there had been no improvement. The cause of death may not be related to why he was in the asylum. I understand that some chemicals involved in many trades (before Health and safety) ould cause forms of insanity. There is also a Joseph Field admitted on 14 March 1889 and died 5 April 1890 (this says Worcester asylum - I assume Rubery). No other details are given on the record.

Janice
Janice , i dont know whether he was admitted twice , all i know is that he died in there , are the dates of birth the same on the two admissions
 

JeanieB

New Member
I am trying to chase records of my Great Uncle Joseph Ellison who was taken into Rubery Hill during WW1. He had shell shock and died there in early 1980s I believe.

Im not sure where to go from here. Can anyone kindly help please.

Thanks you
Jean B
 
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