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Brummie babby
Good Afternoon,

If anyone has any history on the above surname I would be most greatful.

Regards


Gazza P
 
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I can't help with the history of the name, but a Protty family kept a shop in Arsenal St Small Heath
 
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There don't seem to be any Prottys iin Kellys in Birmingham at the beginning of the 20th century (none up to 1921), but in 1940 the following (2 spellings) occurr:
Commercial
Nellie Prottey (Mrs) Newsagent, 20-21 Arsenal st small heath
Albert Protty. Ladies hairdresser.32 Kings road Hay Mills
Thomas Protty. Fried fish dealer, 63 Grange hill, small heath
Private
William George Protty, 65 Steyning Rd, south yardley

After this they seem to be, not exactly common, but present.

Mike
 
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William George Protty, 65 Steyning Rd, South Yardley (RIP) and his brother (who is still alive) , ran a car bodywork repair business as "Protty Brothers" their address is on the tip of my tongue and i will try to get it off!, this was circa 1960`s onwards to 2003?. Len.
 
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Hope this helps
From FreeBMD

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
[SIZE=+1]Births Dec 1838[/SIZE] Protty Joseph Birmingham 16268
[SIZE=+1]Births Mar 1873 [/SIZE]Protty Esther Elizabeth Birmingham 6d51 [SIZE=+1]Deaths Mar 1875 [/SIZE]PROTTY Emily Jane 0 Birmingham 6d89
[SIZE=+1]Births Sep 1879 [/SIZE]Protty William Birmingham 6d110
[SIZE=+1]Marriages Jun 1893[/SIZE] Protty Esther Elizabeth Birmingham 6d97
[SIZE=+1]Marriages Sep 1899 [/SIZE]Protty Sarah Ann J Birmingham 6d121 [SIZE=+1]Marriages Mar 1900 [/SIZE]Protty William Birmingham 6d65
[SIZE=+1]Marriages Sep 1905 [/SIZE]PROTTY Mary Eva Birmingham 6d111

This was the only one that came up on the Warickshire free cen for 1891, none came up for 1841
Maybe some one could look at other dates on other sites



Place: Aston -Warwickshire
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Andrews
Address: 1 Bk 42 Wright St

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born PROTTY Alfred Head M M 35 Tin Stamper(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Alice Wife M F 34 - Hampshire - Portsmouth
PROTTY Robert Son - M 13 Brass-Founder Filer(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Ernest Son - M 11 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Alfred Son - M 9 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Alice Dau - F 7 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Howard Son - M 5 Scholar Warwickshire - Birmingham
PROTTY Marian Dau - F 2 - Warwickshire - Birmingham
LEE Elizabeth Visitr - F 24 Umbrella Worker(Em'ee) Warwickshire - Birmingham
LEE Rose Visitr - F 2 - Warwickshire - Birmingham
 
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Here are the FreeBMD for Aston too.
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Jun 1860 Protty Joseph Aston 6d226
Marriages Mar 1867 PROTTY George Aston 6d285
Births Jun 1874 Protty Emily Jane Aston 6d329
Births Mar 1876 PROTTY John Aston 6d380

Marriages Dec 1894 Protty John Alfred Aston 6d618
Births Mar 1895 Protty Alice Ann Aston 6d268
Births Mar 1897 Protty John Alfred Aston 6d312

Deaths Mar 1898 Protty John Alfred 0 Aston 6d171
Births Mar 1900 Protty Horace Joseph Aston 6d244
Births Mar 1901 Protty Ellen Elsie Aston 6d258
Births Mar 1903 Protty Ernest Charles Aston 6d294
Births Mar 1904 PROTTY Sydney Christopher Aston 6d280
Births Dec 1904 Protty Florence Aston 6d261
Births Mar 1906 Protty Thomas Aston 6d285
Births Jun 1907 PROTTY Alfred Aston 6d249
Births Mar 1910 PROTTY Kathleen Mary Aston 6d261
Births Dec 1910 PROTTY Norman Aston 6d176
Births Dec 1912 Protty Amy C

(Akers mother's maiden name) Aston 6d420
Deaths Dec 1913 Protty Arthur 4 Aston 6d482
Marriages Dec 1918 Protty Alice A (spouse +Lamb) Aston 6d750
 
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Protty Brothers car bodywork repair business was at Unit 8, Fox Mill Estate, off Greswolde Rd, Sparkhill, no longer in business. Len.
 
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Thanks for everyone who provided information reference my request, the spelling of the name prottey is missing an e (protty), would this be a common spelling error or has the Registrar's mispelt it?

If anyone has any information with the correct spelling of my surname it would be much appreciated - correct spelling is PROTTEY.

Regards


Gazza P
 
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The kellys listing is as written, and , as they had both I can't see that as an error,
Mike
 
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Gazza, to answer your question..
....the spelling of the name prottey is missing an e (protty), would this be a common spelling error or has the Registrar's mispelt it?
'Tarone/Taroni/Tyrone....'
all the names above are the names from the same family!
For example, this is the family from censii & BMD's
1841 census
Ann Tarone abt 1811 Staffordshire
Guy Tarone abt 1811 Italy
Agustin Tarone 1840
1851 census
Ann Tyrone 35
(Not sure where Father Guy is)
Augustus Tyrone 11
Guy Tyrone 9 (Births Mar 1843 Taroni Geutiano Stafford 17Vol 145page )
1861Census
Gaetars Tarone abt 1812 location, Italy
Ann Tarone abt 1812 Staffordshire, England
(Not sure where Brother Augustus/in is)
Gaetano Tarone 19 abt 1843 Staffordshire

(This is the Augustus in 1851 census)
1881 He's AUGUSTINE TARONI 41 (He also had a son Guy c1884)
1891 He's TORONI Augustian 51
AUGUSTINE TARONI
Spouse: RUTH PRITCHATT
Marriage: 07 JUN 1870 Saint Mary, Aston Brook, Warwick, England

(This is the Guy in 1851 census)
1881 he's Guy TARONE 38
1891 He's TRONEY Guy 48
Marriages Mar 1879
Hampton Sarah Ann Birmingham 6d162
Spouse:TARONI Guy Birmingham 6d162
(There were at least another four Agustine's/Augustus' born between 1902 & 1919)

Due to lack of reading and writing skills in the last and previous centuries, names were often being spelled on records 'Phonically' and so often variations of the name came about within the same family.
Also, sometimes due to the naming patterns used in families. Often Grandparents, Parents, Sons, Daughters and grandchildren all had the same names. As was the case with their cousins, birth dates also coincided too with each generation. So first names, on some occasions and or both first and surnames were given a slight spelling change, in order to be able to tell one member of the family from the other. This you can see with the Taroni records above.


Tracing that family and putting everyone in their right place was a night mare. However it was a great challange and rewarding, as I was able to share the info' and my results with another forum member who was struggling to work out who was who!

Pom :angel:
 
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Thankyou for all who have contributed to my request. This will make my research much easier now.

I will hopefully be able to make a contrihution myself soon, once I get my head around things.:headhit:

Regards

Gazza P
 
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There are quite a few Prottey families in the Warwickshire,Leicestershire and Stratford area on the census 1851 onwards.Would they have come from those parts?
 
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im a prottey.
i live in handsworth wood birmingham.
and my grandparents live in solihull.
dunno if that helps you at all.
if you need some specifics just let me know.
 
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Hello Tom, I also have a son who is called Tom, he is only 6 though.

Who are your parents, they might even be one of my brothers or sisters.

Regards


Garry Prottey
 
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Thanks for everyone who provided information reference my request, the spelling of the name prottey is missing an e (protty), would this be a common spelling error or has the Registrar's mispelt it?

If anyone has any information with the correct spelling of my surname it would be much appreciated - correct spelling is PROTTEY.

Regards


Gazza P


This is from 1936
 
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Pom, following on from your post on name spellings ...

At the time of the 2001 census, an enumerator called on a single parent in Chelmsley Wood. After adding her details to the census form, he asked for the names and ages of her 7 children who were all boys.

"Well, there's Charlie, he's two" she began. "Then there's Charlie, he's four... then Charlie, he's six....then Charlie ..."

"Hold on a minute" the enumerator interrupted "four of your children are all named Charlie?"

"They're all named Charlie" she explained "It's easier when I want to call them in for tea - I just shout CHARLIE! and they all come running in".

"But what if you only wanted to call one of them for something?" asked the bemused enumerator.

"Oh, easy ..... I call them by their fathers' names" came the reply. :D
 
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My dad doesnt have any bros or sisters and thats where the name comes from.
his names graham.
dunno if that helps or anything
 
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