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Pheonix Tavern Park Street Birmingham 1881...help needed

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jay

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Hello there,
This is my first posting, was wondering if anyone can help me atall.

My Gt Gt Gt grandfather was the licenced victular of one Pheonix Tavern 3 Park street Birmingham in the Parish of St Bartholomews. Can anyone tell me how I can find out any more onfo on it, i.e. which websites to look at or if anyone has any other ideas, maybe location of Park Street etc.

Many Thanks
Jay.
 
The Phoenix Pub is the large building with the horse and cart outside. O0
 

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OMG...wow thats brilliant thank you so much for that...where did you find it? Do you know of anyway i can find out more info on my ancester? ie how long was he there...does anyone hold old records for these types of places

Many Thanks Jay.
 
Heres another picture, just prior to demolition :'(
 

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hi postie
thankyou for those....any idea when the first one was taken? and when it was demolished

Jay
 
The first picture dates from 1867, and the second one is 1965. Shortly after this the pub was demolished. O0
 
wELL WHAT CAN I SAY...THANKYOU SO MUCH..TODAY WAS MY FIRST TIME ON THIS SITE ...BRILLIANT
JAY.
 
I never cease to be amazed at how kind people are on this site...... :-*

Well done to all :smitten:
 
Postie, I,ve said it before, and I,ll say it again. You are a real gem. For you to help someone that has just joined, and in record time, is fantastic. Keep up the good work. You are brilliant. Have a great day, BazzM.
 
Thanks, but when I can help someone it also makes MY day, so perhaps I'm just being selfish. >:D
 
1881 census 1851 census
Dwelling: Park St Phoenix Tavern
Census Place: Birmingham, Warwick, England
Source: FHL Film 1341714     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 2987    Folio 24    Page 42
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John JENNINGS M 60 M Birmingham, Warwick, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Licensed Victualler
Caroline JENNINGS M 62 F Clapham, Bedford, England
Rel: Wife
Thomas JENNINGS W 30 M Cliff, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Grocer
Arthur JENNINGS U 25 M Cliff, Warwick, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Brewer
Ellen JENNINGS U 23 F Cliff, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Waitress
Hannah JENNINGS U 20 F Cliff, Warwick, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Bar Maid
 
To John and Postie,
You certainly have made my day....thanks for all your efforts and all the info. Little did i know 4 months ago when i started this family history research that i would become hooked on it in such a big way...sometimes along the way you come across stumbling blocks...but with people like you around you get over them.

Wish i had as much luck with my other rellies "SMITHS" lol

Regards
Jay. x
 
Here they are in 1861 living in Kingsbury, address given as Cliff.

Name: John Jennings
Age: 45 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head 
Spouses's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male 
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
 
Civil parish: Birmingham 
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mathias 
Town: Birmingham 
County/Island: Warwickshire 
Country: England 
 
Street address: Cliff

Occupation: Farmer of 40 acres employing 2 men.

Condition as to marriage: View image
 
Registration district: Birmingham 
Sub-registration district: St George 
ED, institution, or vessel: 49 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Jennings 39 
Eliza Jennings 13 
George Jennings 9 
James Jennings 14 
John Jennings 45 
John Jennings 19 
William Jennings 16
 
Jay, My Nan on My Fathers side was a Leah Smith from Wharton Street Aston. No connetion I suppose. ::)
ASTON
 
Hi there,
I do have a Leah Smith in the family B 1860 married to a John Launchberry....if it is the same one i will eat my hat as my old dad would have said.

Regards
Jay.
 
No, we are not related.My Leah was married to a Frederick Charles Jenney,She was B 1899.
Would have been great is we could have compared trees O0
 
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