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Paynes shoe repairs

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SRWALW

Brummie babby
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) buisness, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
Somewhere in my book collection I had/have a book writen by the Paynes Shoe repairs, if I can find it I will let you know the details from memory it was only a small book I will now go to have a look for the book
 
I have now found the book it is called, Shoemakers A study of goodwill in industry, by Edith Ryley Richards, published by George Allen & Unwin Ltd it ws published in 1953
in the book the is a photo of Harry H Payne "The Boss" there is also a photograph of J E Payne the then present Manging Director, the book tells how a newly wed couple stepped out of the Northampton (Harrys birth place) train on Wensday 26 Feb 1908 to their first shop in Longmore St Balsall Heath the shop was known localy at the "bad luck shop" the book also tells how Harry Payne was sentenced to 116 hard labour in Wormwood scrubs " for disobeying order given by a superior officer" there are only 91 pages in the book but it does give a great deal of information I hope this helps




SRWALW said:
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) buisness, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Bammont, thank you for such a quick reply, I also have a copy of the book but unfortunatly am unable to put my hands on it. I have written down all the information and will have to see if I can get a copy, ( pigs might fly its so old now)
 
I had a friend named Ron Dutton who worked at Paynes shoe repairs in Mere Green Four Oaks. This would have been about 1968/9 I was fascinated by the machinery and the amount of shoes being repaired. I suppose I shouldn't mention it but he often repaired mine for free!
 
Many years ago I was involved with the rescue of this old bus which had been converted to a mobile shoe repair workshop by Paynes. It was originally operated as a bus by the Potteries Motor Traction company in Stoke-on Trent, and Paynes kept it behind a shop in Kings Heath. It still exists, in this state (unrestored) stored away by an enthusiast in Devon - perhaps now restoration as the Paynes mobile workshop might be an idea?
 
Lloyd your knowledge of these things never ceases to amaze me. What a brilliant piece of history. I have never heard of a mobile shoe repairers like this. I also love the idea of restoring the vehicle to a Paynes mobile workshop.......brilliant!
 
Lloyd, what a great picture. Your knowledge amazes me too.
I have never seen or heard of a mobile shoe repair workshop before - they should bring these back - the cost of renting shops is ridiculous nowadays. It would be lovely to see it restored
Polly :)
 
Lloyd, what can I say but a very big THANK YOU what a fantastic find how do you do it ?. I dont suppose you know where in Devon it is.
 
I always had mine repaired free as well. I remember going to the shop in Selly Oak with my father to pick up grandad on a Saturday evening, in the 1950's there was less machine then and most of it was done by hand.
 
Hi there

We used to use the Paynes shop in the layby near Stechford Station.
I had a friend at the Chemist next door, and I remember that a Miss
Payne from the shoe repairers used to call in for a chat.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Hello SRWALW

I know my Grandfather AJW (Billy) Sheldon's firm worked converting the Longmoore Street shop and went on to do the building work and fitting out of a number of the others. One of my older uncles remembered spending time painting up 'A better Sole' signs and boards. The firm was working out of a yard in Mary Street and home in Edward Road, a shop 551 on the Moseley Road (from 1915) and the later home, Number 6 Alcester Road (By the Tram depot and Trafalgar Road). His business built up stubstancially after he left the Navy at the end of WW1. One of the Paynes played Snooker or Billiards with Billy at number 6 but I have no idea of the dates or the duration of their business relationship.

Cheers

Cheers
 
All my shoes including my specialised ballroom dancing shoes were looked after by Paynes in Erdington.
Dyan
 
SRWALW said:
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) business, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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By 1948 (Kelly's Directory) they appeared to be running two parallel shoe repairing businesses:

Harry H Payne, with head office at 65 Longmore Street, Balsall Heath, Birmingham 12, had some 30 branches all over the city.

W R Payne (Shoecraft) Ltd had shops at 740 Bristol Road and 19 Oak Tree Lane, both Selly Oak, Birmingham 29.
 
Bammot said:
I have now found the book, called 'Shoemakers: A study of goodwill in industry', by Edith Ryley Richards, published by George Allen & Unwin Ltd in 1953.
In the book is a photo of Harry H Payne "The Boss"... The book tells how a newly wed couple stepped out of the Northampton (Harry's birth place) train on Wednesday 26 Feb 1908 to their first shop in Longmore St Balsall Heath ... The book also tells how Harry Payne was sentenced to 116 hard labour in Wormwood Scrubs "for disobeying an order given by a superior officer" ...
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Harry Payne was clearly a conscientious objector to military service in WW1. I imagine the booklet makes it clear that the sentence was 116 days hard labour (actually I wonder whether it was really 112 days, the conventional first sentence in such cases), given after court-martial, probably in 1916.
 
Rowland said:
Harry Payne was clearly a conscientious objector to military service in WW1. I imagine the booklet makes it clear that the sentence was 116 days hard labour (actually I wonder whether it was really 112 days, the conventional first sentence in such cases), given after court-martial, probably in 1916.
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I wonder whether SRWALW has seen the very full reply Chrs Davenport had from the Archivist of the Peace Pledge concerning his grandfather, who was a WW1 conscientious objector. It could well be worthwhile contacting the Archivist ([email protected]) about Harry Payne.
 
It maybe off topic but Payne`s had competion from Harley`s Boot & Shoe Repairs who started doing repairs circa 1946 in the garage of their house in Aldershawe Rd, Sheldon, any one else remember them?. Len.
 
SRWALW said:
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) buisness, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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I worked for Paynes from 1953, started at Sheldon shop, I worked at Lyndon Rd and was at Stechford when I went to my Army two years . I worked at Stockfield Rd with Selwyn Greenwood till I managed Albert rd. after that lots more and lots of holiday relief a long way out.
 
I used to go and work on the bus that Brian? Watts ( Billy and Ivy Watts son) used to bring from by the Wagon and Horses to the Radleys to help out on Saturdays. I was parked on a site at the Radleys before the pub was built. Paynes eventually opened a shop at the end of the row shops in Sheldon Heath Rd.
 
SRWALW said:
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) buisness, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi William Payne was married to my Grans sister Nellie Seamark Eagles. They had a daughter Waveney who I remember meeting as a child. I was also told about the shoe repair business. I would be greatful for any information you are willing to share.
Thanks
 
SRWALW said:
I am currently researching my great uncle (Harry H Payne) and grandfather (William R Payne) buisness, Paynes Shoe Repairs. Is there any one who worked or has relatives who worked for them. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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My grandfather was Harry H Payne's brother John Edward Payne. John Edward worked in the business and lived in Brazil for a time with his wife and son (my father). Are we second cousins?
 
SRWALW,
Bit of a long shot but are your rels from Brum? My family are Paynes, originally from Blockley in Gloucestershire, but the sons then all moved to Brum in the late 1800's and the family became estranged my dad didn't know he had rels other than his grandad and single aunts and uncles, grandad never talked about his brothers. The names you mention are common in Dads family too.
Sue
 
Hi,
My grandfather was William Richard Payne, Harry and Johns brother. I have done the family tree with a few gaps !! if you are interested. Val
 
Not sure if anyone already has this but I used to know a Harold Burnett who was reputedly married into the Payne (shoe repair) family.

There is an entry on FreeBMD Q1 1935 for Harold S Burnett and Annie K Payne, which would possibly fit.

They used to live in the house on the corner of Wake Green Road and Yardley Wood Road.
 
Re: Paynes shoe repairers

I wonder if SRWALW could help me, I am trying to find information about a John Edward Payne who married my grandmother in the fifties, we were told he was one of the paynes shoe repairers family but whether it was true I do not know. All I know was that he was living in Addison Rd Kings Heath before they married in 1950. I don't know who his parents were or his first wifes name, so I don't know where to start to look him up. Hope you can help.
 
Don't know if this is any help, but according to the electoral roll for 1950 (which would apply from the beginning of 1950, brfore he was married) at 111 addison road there was John E, Leslie C & Joan F Payne.
 
Hello EarlGary

Don't know if this is any help. I lived in Addison Road throughout my childhood and the co owner (or worker) of the garage at number 54, was a Payne. Think the other man was Hackett whose name was over the door. Attached is a photo, apologies I don't know where it came from.View attachment 71131
 
Thank you Mikejee, at least I have two other names I can look into, I know nothing about the man except his name and where he lived before he married my grandmother.
 
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