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terryb18
Gone but not forgotten R.I.P.
Lyn, this picture I have posted before. That is me leaning on the car and that's my mother standing at the bottom of the entry with 114 to her right. That was the first car I can remember having a ride in. It belonged to the elderly couple who lived at the top of the yard and they used to baby sit me while mom and dad brought in the pennies.
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terry mike is very good at this sort of thing...if he spots your post im sure he will be able to work out the numbering for you...wonder who those children are posing for the camera
lyn
terryb18
Gone but not forgotten R.I.P.
Hi terry
Yes indeed its a little cracker looking at it reminds me of the old days when me and my younger kid
Used to knock around there and drink in those pubs up and around there
And looking at the picture on your left hand close to the sighting of the flat
There appears to be a part figure of a concrete mixer on the road just merely showing
And it would roughly be where a girl i used to court there namely Carol and she had a cousin
Right next door namely Jackie and she used to go with the lad from thecafe on the flat
His first name was Gino i am not allowed to give surnames as they are alive today
And also across from that mixer was the pub we used
And across from that pub around the corner was charles Harris Bake light moulders
Where my father worked for years until his death in 1958 Along side our lovely
Members mother Sylvia, whom told me of the dirty conditions they had to endure
When he died they had a works collection of money for my mother
There used to be a lub as well yards from it called the Fireman which i beleive no/one
As ever mentioned on this forum along with Hydraulic facing scribonas bakery
Thanks for those memories for me in my youth they was great days beleive
Best wishes as always Astonian,,,Alan,,,,
Yes indeed its a little cracker looking at it reminds me of the old days when me and my younger kid
Used to knock around there and drink in those pubs up and around there
And looking at the picture on your left hand close to the sighting of the flat
There appears to be a part figure of a concrete mixer on the road just merely showing
And it would roughly be where a girl i used to court there namely Carol and she had a cousin
Right next door namely Jackie and she used to go with the lad from thecafe on the flat
His first name was Gino i am not allowed to give surnames as they are alive today
And also across from that mixer was the pub we used
And across from that pub around the corner was charles Harris Bake light moulders
Where my father worked for years until his death in 1958 Along side our lovely
Members mother Sylvia, whom told me of the dirty conditions they had to endure
When he died they had a works collection of money for my mother
There used to be a lub as well yards from it called the Fireman which i beleive no/one
As ever mentioned on this forum along with Hydraulic facing scribonas bakery
Thanks for those memories for me in my youth they was great days beleive
Best wishes as always Astonian,,,Alan,,,,
terryb18
Gone but not forgotten R.I.P.
Thanks Mike, I am pretty sure it is 114. In the first pic I posted in post #102 look at the lampost, then in my 2nd pic in post #106, if you look through the car windscreen on the right hand side just to the left of the wiper, I am sure you can see the lampost, only about 10 years earlier. I must have climbed it countless times swinging on the arms that used to stick out. I just wish I had a picture of the yard I lived in. This picture I am posting was taken in 1947 and the woman who is holding me lived at 114, her name was Renee Stokes. My house is the one with the door open.
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Hi Carol
What year are you referring to regards the fireman, because i know it was the fireman
As i was a local in early years have you got the right pub in and the rignt years
I can only say it must had been later years after the sixty,s
When they change lodge road around and the alteration of the flat
They blocked off you driving up lodge road and they built a big block of flats
Right on the corner where the pub was on the corner of park road
If you recall the terace houses half way up the hill on your right hand
The pub which was on the corner and walk up the hill to the houses there was big yards and terraces
I used to go out with a girl named Sylvia from the terrace next to it
In the fifties and sixty one period and when you crossed over the road and walked up the hill
On the opersite side facing Scibonas bakery that was the Hydralic pub
And my sister inlaw now whom i knew her before i got married to my old dutchess tess
Whom is her elder sister we used to court in her house
Lived two doors next to the Hydralic and if we came kut of the front door and crossed over
And walked back down for about eighty yards that was the old fireman
And in the summer months there was scores of people and familys on a ,summer evening
All from the terraces sitting on the stools they brought out side with there kids
On wednesday this week i am travelling to birmingham ,i am going to ,king standing
And I Am Attending my 1st Cousin,s funetal at Witton Lodge Cemetry whom i was very close to
From young to old age ,
And I Shall be meeting my younger brother whom lives in kingsheath for the first time in twenty years
And he his the young brother whom spent is time in all those pubs with friends of the area
Mainly the one on the corner and the fireman and one abit further up park street
Roy is his name and he was a very popular guy friends of the cotteralls and the fisher family
Was his main drinking partner
I will asked him the question about the fireman pub and i will come back to you on this
But i am eighty percecnt sure it was the firreman in those days
Best wishes Alan,,,Astonian,,,
What year are you referring to regards the fireman, because i know it was the fireman
As i was a local in early years have you got the right pub in and the rignt years
I can only say it must had been later years after the sixty,s
When they change lodge road around and the alteration of the flat
They blocked off you driving up lodge road and they built a big block of flats
Right on the corner where the pub was on the corner of park road
If you recall the terace houses half way up the hill on your right hand
The pub which was on the corner and walk up the hill to the houses there was big yards and terraces
I used to go out with a girl named Sylvia from the terrace next to it
In the fifties and sixty one period and when you crossed over the road and walked up the hill
On the opersite side facing Scibonas bakery that was the Hydralic pub
And my sister inlaw now whom i knew her before i got married to my old dutchess tess
Whom is her elder sister we used to court in her house
Lived two doors next to the Hydralic and if we came kut of the front door and crossed over
And walked back down for about eighty yards that was the old fireman
And in the summer months there was scores of people and familys on a ,summer evening
All from the terraces sitting on the stools they brought out side with there kids
On wednesday this week i am travelling to birmingham ,i am going to ,king standing
And I Am Attending my 1st Cousin,s funetal at Witton Lodge Cemetry whom i was very close to
From young to old age ,
And I Shall be meeting my younger brother whom lives in kingsheath for the first time in twenty years
And he his the young brother whom spent is time in all those pubs with friends of the area
Mainly the one on the corner and the fireman and one abit further up park street
Roy is his name and he was a very popular guy friends of the cotteralls and the fisher family
Was his main drinking partner
I will asked him the question about the fireman pub and i will come back to you on this
But i am eighty percecnt sure it was the firreman in those days
Best wishes Alan,,,Astonian,,,
Thank you so much for the pics, I grew up in Park Rd, and the pics brought back many happy memories...so sad to see it on Google earth nowadays.
Phil B
Made in Brum
Hi Mikejee, I like the way you post street maps with house numbers would it be possible to show maps for 2/214 and 298 Park Road as well please. I lived at 2/214 from 1952 to 1969 and my grandparents lived a t 298. The stretch of road from Abbey Street past the Railway Tavern Pub would be good.
Phil B
Made in Brum
Phil B
Made in Brum
Hi Carolina,
What's the date of the article? When I lived at 2/214 those living at 216 were Gordon Parr and his mother Mrs. Parr, I forget her first name. The memory that stands out for me about Mrs Parr is she would make Egg Custard, in a cup, for anyone who was ill.
Cheers
Phil
What's the date of the article? When I lived at 2/214 those living at 216 were Gordon Parr and his mother Mrs. Parr, I forget her first name. The memory that stands out for me about Mrs Parr is she would make Egg Custard, in a cup, for anyone who was ill.
Cheers
Phil
Eddyjayauk
master brummie
Hi all, just as a matter of interest to anyone who lived in Park Rd, the secondhand shop almost opposite the pub called the Royal Exchange was known as Bibbys, I believe they were Irish people, between the Exchange and further down my Grans chip shop, was a rather grotty shop called Sterns, who made various toffee products, he was a rather unsavory person always trying to entice young boys in particular into his shop, my father would always warn us about him, but his toffee was very good. Regards Eddyjay.
Peg Monkey
master brummie
Hi Folks, plenty of good pics on the thread but no plan of a typical back to back (correct me if I'm wrong) so I've started to put one together for the sake of posterity (I'm a native of Heaton Street 1949-1959 and I've done the same on that thread).
I know the plan is good but it's not right.
I had close relatives that lived on the Hockley Station end of Park Road, in a back to back in the late 40s - early 50s, they had 6 children, goodness knows how they managed: 8 people - 2 bedrooms (why on earth did they have 6 children????) Anyway back to the plan - It's as close as I can recall from memory, but nearly 60 years have passed. I need your help - there is a void, shown in green, which I cannot explain, it would not be there if the scullery and range projected into the living room but as I recall they didn't.
Any suggestions? I'm more than happy to make revisions as necessary.
Regards,
Peg.
I know the plan is good but it's not right.
I had close relatives that lived on the Hockley Station end of Park Road, in a back to back in the late 40s - early 50s, they had 6 children, goodness knows how they managed: 8 people - 2 bedrooms (why on earth did they have 6 children????) Anyway back to the plan - It's as close as I can recall from memory, but nearly 60 years have passed. I need your help - there is a void, shown in green, which I cannot explain, it would not be there if the scullery and range projected into the living room but as I recall they didn't.
Any suggestions? I'm more than happy to make revisions as necessary.
Regards,
Peg.
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Radiorails
master brummie
Lots of info and pics here:
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/back-to-backs-in-ladywood.37507/page-2
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=b...uC0tbTAhVqIcAKHYF9CyMQ7AkIQw&biw=1280&bih=636
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/birmingham-back-to-backs
and for bedtime reading: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Living-Back-Chris-Upton/1860776558
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/back-to-backs-in-ladywood.37507/page-2
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=b...uC0tbTAhVqIcAKHYF9CyMQ7AkIQw&biw=1280&bih=636
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/birmingham-back-to-backs
and for bedtime reading: https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Living-Back-Chris-Upton/1860776558
terryb18
Gone but not forgotten R.I.P.
Peg Monkey...I lived at 1/114 Park Rd which would have been on your drawing below the entry where it says Adjoining dwelling. It was slightly different to your drawing as I remember it. The Front door would have been next to the entry with the stairs door on the back wall in the right corner. Next to the stairs we had a very narrow pantry with the door to the cellar in there. We didn't have a range only a coal fire which was on the right hand wall as you entered the front door.
Peg Monkey
master brummie
Hi terryb18, it sounds like you lived very close to my relatives' entry, which I estimate was only 2 or 3 up from the junction with All Saints' Road. It appears, whilst the back to back houses were similar, the court yard layout depended on the road layout close-by. I'm still filling some of the gaps in my memory, can I impose on you for your recollections on the following?
1. Were your 2 bedrooms on the first floor?
2. How many dwellings were there in your court yard?
3. Was your cellar grating (where you tipped the coal down) outside underneath the living room window?
4. I'm still trying to account for the green void - it's not there in reality, one explanation is the scullery and chimney breast intruded into the living room, but my memory tells me that wasn't the case, can you recall?
Thanks for the info' so far, my serious omission was the cellar - obvious really - coal fire - coal had to be store somewhere (I recall youngsters fetching barrow loads of coal from nearby dealers - no bagged stuff, all loose, sometimes coke, I guess it was cheaper as some of its heat value had been removed (used for producing town gas - I believe heated without flame).
Regards,
Peg.
PS Gas meter robbery was rife, shillings I think, if your meter was robbed you stood the loss.
