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nice pic of this pub...mike i think i may have asked you before on another thread but if not could we have a map showing where this pub was please....the question is was this convoy just for a delivery?? maybe it was getting ready to open for the first time and they were stocking up....

lyn

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I think this might be the location, Lyn. The space to the left of the building matches the map.

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thanks BB must be losing it lol...ive just realised that i have that map from mike from way back marking out no 179 which is where i had rellies in 1901:rolleyes: house still there but alas pub and houses opposite gone now but i bet my rellies used the new inns pub...out of one door into another:D

lyn
 
I had a job in the summer of 1976 which involved doing an awful lot of walking in the Lozells area and was amazed how many of the 'old' pubs (and shops) were still open. Even then the area had some charm, I remember how nice St Silas church in St Silas Square looked when I came across it unexpectedly.
 
thanks alan i thought we had talked about this one before...my excuse is lack of memory due to old age lol....i think my gt nan was still living opposite the pub when the photo was taken so may well have standing on the other side of the road watching the may day activities that passed her door...would be nice to think she was there

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I found this photo on Ebay as my family (Cox and Lowe) have history to Berners Street. Does anyone have any information on the New Inn Shooting Club. The date is unknown. Thanks
 
Josie
There was a sort of gossip/comment column called "Bulls Eyes" in the Sports Argus in the early 1900s concerned with shooting. there are two mentions of a New Inns club, though I cannot be sure it is the same New Inns. If it is then they were not very good around 1903
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what a cracking photo josie...nice find...most likely taken at the back of the new inns...i have posted on the photo restoration thread hopefully someone can get rid of the line running down the middle

lyn
 
mikejee said:
Josie
There was a sort of gossip/comment column called "Bulls Eyes" in the Sports Argus in the early 1900s concerned with shooting. there are two mentions of a New Inns club, though I cannot be sure it is the same New Inns. If it is then they were not very good around 1903
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I did wonder if having a Gun Club attached to a pub was a good idea, especially after a few pints! Thanks for checking. I do have access to the Newspaper articles on FMP so I will check it out, though I oftern get side tracked reading the news of the day: fascinating! Joanne
 
Astoness said:
what a cracking photo josie...nice find...most likely taken at the back of the new inns...i have posted on the photo restoration thread hopefully someone can get rid of the line running down the middle

lyn
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Thanks Astoness. I agree it is a wonderful photograph with its vast array of hats! I was hoping the photo would have names etc written on the reverse but sadly no. I have traced my family to Berners Street around this time and in fact lived her upto the 1940/50s and was hoping the photo might provide a face! Joanne
 
Have checked the directories available to me and could find no C. Tasker listed. The newspaper archives similarly showed no mention that seemed relevant
 
mikejee said:
Have checked the directories available to me and could find no C. Tasker listed. The newspaper archives similarly showed no mention that seemed relevant
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Yes Agreed Mike, I have searched and reached a dead end regarding the name Tasker and The Shooting Club too.
 
The photograph of the Shooting Club is intriguing. The Billy Cock hats were more of a Victorian fashion than Edwardian and there is some transition in this image. A few straw boaters and caps are more like the early Edwardian period.

Arthur Wade Edge is listed as the licensee in the early 20th century but he was an area manager for M&B and held a number of licences, some at the same time. This was generally not allowed but he seems to have been given some leeway by the magistrates. Anyway, the point I was making is that I suspect he was not actually here at the New Inns and that a manager was installed by the brewery. Some of these can slip through the net, particularly if they moved around a lot. It is pure conjecture on my part, but I would hazard a guess that the man in the waistcoat and white shirt is the manager. He is dressed like an employee rather than a licensee/proprietor. The photographer who labelled this photograph may have assumed that he was the proprietor and entered this on the caption/title. Also, is it possible that it says C. Jasper. There was a Charles Jasper in that area around this period? Just a thought.

By the way, he looks very similar to the man in the waistcoat featured in the brewery dray image.
 
Astoness said:
nice pic of this pub...mike i think i may have asked you before on another thread but if not could we have a map showing where this pub was please....the question is was this convoy just for a delivery?? maybe it was getting ready to open for the first time and they were stocking up....

lyn

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See my other post on the Shooting Club. Possibly the same person featured in both photographs. This image is another curious item. Why such a long line of brewery vehicles? If it really was May Day then perhaps they were on their way to some sort of procession/carnival? The New Inns had not long been taken over by M&B so was this a chance to pull off a publicity photograph? Intriguing.
 
Damn, I got sidetracked again. I was more interested at the moment in an old photograph I have of the Union Inn - and only because of a link to the Alma Tavern. Never simple.
 
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