Lyn Walker
knowlegable brummie
Looking for information on Elsie Harper who married Sydney Molyneux in 1917 in Birmingham
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ladylinda
master brummie
Purchase of the marriage cert will probably give her father's name and occupation which will make searching census records easier.
Marriages Dec 1917
Elsie F Harper married Sydney J Molyneux Aston 6d 1069
They were listed at 9 Banford Avenue in 1930 and 139 Blakesley Rd in 1935
Marriages Dec 1917
Elsie F Harper married Sydney J Molyneux Aston 6d 1069
They were listed at 9 Banford Avenue in 1930 and 139 Blakesley Rd in 1935
bewdley
master brummie
Hi Lyn
further to ladylinda info I have found
1911 census transcription details for: 155 Bankes Road Small Heath B Ham
RG14PN18216 RG78PN1100 RD385 SD2 ED27 SN171
Elsie Florence Molyneux is stated as Sydney James Molyneux’ next of kin on his army record, it states they were married on 22.10.17 at Birmingham Register Office, her address is 93 Kingston Road, Small Heath and his is 155 Banks Road, Small Heath, his army record enlistment date is 25.10.17 he is aged 27 years and 1 month, his occupation is storekeeper, he was born in 1890. His regimental number was 348148 and his regiment name Army Service Corps (MT).
Sydney James is on the absent voters electoral roll in 1919 at 155 Banks Road, Yardley Division, Small Heath Ward. M/348148 Pte, Tank Corps.
Sydney J and Elsie F Molyneux are at 139 Blakesley Road, Yardley Ward 1935-1947 electoral rolls.
1950 they are at 34 Larne Road, Stechford.
1960 at 83 Horse Shoes Lane, Stechford.
Civil Registration event: Death
further to ladylinda info I have found
1911 census transcription details for: 155 Bankes Road Small Heath B Ham
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| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Bordesley |
| Parish: | Aston |
| Enum. District: | 27 |
| Address: | 155 Bankes Road Small Heath B Ham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition/ Yrs married | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation | Where Born |
| MOLYNEUX, William | Head | Married | M | 46 | 1865 | Button Toolmaker | Stafford Handsworth |
| MOLYNEUX, Minnie | Wife | Married 22 years | F | 44 | 1867 | Worcester Dudley | |
| MOLYNEUX, Sydney | Son | Single | M | 20 | 1891 | Railway Clerk | Warwick Birmingham |
| MOLYNEUX, Leonard | Son | Single | M | 19 | 1892 | Wood Machinist | Warwick Birmingham |
| MOLYNEUX, William | Son | M | 11 | 1900 | School | Warwick Birmingham | |
| MOLYNEUX, Madgeline | Daughter | F | 9 | 1902 | School | Warwick Birmingham | |
| MOLYNEUX, Stanley | Son | M | 7 | 1904 | School | Warwick Birmingham | |
| WILKINSON, Mirah | Mother In Law | Widow | F | 65 | 1846 | Worester Dudley |
Elsie Florence Molyneux is stated as Sydney James Molyneux’ next of kin on his army record, it states they were married on 22.10.17 at Birmingham Register Office, her address is 93 Kingston Road, Small Heath and his is 155 Banks Road, Small Heath, his army record enlistment date is 25.10.17 he is aged 27 years and 1 month, his occupation is storekeeper, he was born in 1890. His regimental number was 348148 and his regiment name Army Service Corps (MT).
Sydney James is on the absent voters electoral roll in 1919 at 155 Banks Road, Yardley Division, Small Heath Ward. M/348148 Pte, Tank Corps.
Sydney J and Elsie F Molyneux are at 139 Blakesley Road, Yardley Ward 1935-1947 electoral rolls.
1950 they are at 34 Larne Road, Stechford.
1960 at 83 Horse Shoes Lane, Stechford.
Civil Registration event: Death
| Name: | MOLYNEUX, Sydney James |
| Registration district: | Birmingham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Year of registration: | 1977 |
| Quarter of registration: | Oct-Nov-Dec |
| Date of birth: | 9 September 1890 |
| Volume no: | 32 |
| Page no: | 0881 |
| Civil Registration event: Death Name: | MOLYNEUX, Elsie Florence |
| Registration district: | Birmingham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Year of registration: | 1993 |
| Month of registration: | May |
| Date of birth: | 4 January 1895 |
| District no: | 0611B |
| Reg no: | B53A |
| Ent no: | 211 |
| DOR: | 593 |
bewdley
master brummie
[h=4]1911 census transcription details for: 93 Kingston Road Small Heath B'ham
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| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Deritend |
| Parish: | Aston |
| Enum. District: | 25 |
| Address: | 93 Kingston Road Small Heath B'ham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition/ Yrs married | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation | Where Born |
| HARPER, Brusilla | Head | Widow | F | 71 | 1840 | Pawnbroker | Birmingham Warwickshire |
| HARPER, Albert Edward | Son | Single | M | 29 | 1882 | Pawn Broker's Assistant | Warwickshire Birmingham |
| HARPER, Harry | Son | Single | M | 25 | 1886 | Professional Footballer | Warwickshire Birmingham |
| HARPER, Elsie | Grand-Daughter | Single | F | 16 | 1895 |
bewdley
master brummie
1901 census transcription details for: 93, Kingston Road, Aston
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1891 Census transcription details for: 93, Kingston Road, Bordesley, Birmingham
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1881 census transcription details for: 93, Kingston Rd, Aston
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Drusilla was George’s second wife - on the 1911 census she says she has had 3 children who are still living.
The children born before 1875 are by George’s first wife (probably Elizabeth) if 1871 census below is correct and if it is it looks like both George and Elizabeth have been married previously
George Harper married Elizabeth Jordan September quarter 1867 Aston 6d 313
1871 census transcription details for: Coventry Road, Aston, Birmingham
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| RG number: | RG13 |
| Piece: | 2862 |
| Folio: | 148 |
| Page: | 5 |
| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Deritend |
| Parish: | Aston |
| Enum. District: | 73 |
| Ecclesiastical District: | St Andrews |
| City/Municipal Borough: | |
| Address: | 93, Kingston Road, Aston |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation , Disability | Where Born |
| HARPER, Druscilla | Head | Widow | F | 61 | 1840 | Pawnbroker | Birmingham |
| HARPER, Albert E | Son | Single | M | 19 | 1882 | Pawnbroker Assistant | Birmingham |
| HARPER, Harry | Son | Single | M | 15 | 1886 | Wood Carver | Birmingham |
| HARPER, Elsie | Grand Daughter | Single | F | 6 | 1895 | Birmingham |
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| RG number | RG12 |
| Piece: | 2413 |
| Folio: | 25 |
| Page: | 43 |
| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Deritend |
| Parish: | Bordesley |
| Enum. District: | 68 |
| Ecclesiastical District: | St Andrew |
| City/Municipal Borough: | Birmingham |
| Address: | 93, Kingston Road, Bordesley, Birmingham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation , Disability | Where Born |
| HARPER, George | Head | Married | M | 64 | 1827 | Pawnbroker | Shrewsbury |
| HARPER, Priscilla | Wife | Married | F | 51 | 1840 | Birmingham, Warwickshire | |
| HARPER, Lily | Daughter | Single | F | 23 | 1868 | Birmingham, Warwickshire | |
| HARPER, Frank | Son | Single | M | 17 | 1874 | Office Clerk | Birmingham, Warwickshire |
| HARPER, George | Son | Single | M | 14 | 1877 | Birmingham, Warwickshire | |
| HARPER, Albert | Son | M | 9 | 1882 | Scholar | Birmingham, Warwickshire | |
| HARPER, Harry | Son | M | 5 | 1886 | Scholar | Birmingham, Warwickshire |
1881 census transcription details for: 93, Kingston Rd, Aston
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| RG number: | RG11 |
| Piece: | 3023 |
| Folio: | 6 |
| Page: | 6 |
| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Deritend |
| Parish: | Aston |
| Enum. District: | |
| Ecclesiastical District: | |
| City/Municipal Borough: | |
| Address: | 93, Kingston Rd, Aston |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation , Disability | Where Born |
| HARPER, George | Head | Married | M | 54 | 1827 | Pawnbroker & Clothier | Shrewsbury, Shropshire |
| HARPER, Drucilla | Wife | Married | F | 40 | 1841 | Birmingham, Warwickshire | |
| HARPER, Emily | Daughter | Single | F | 18 | 1863 | Teacher Of Music | Birmingham, Warwickshire |
| HARPER, Elizabeth | Daughter | Single | F | 12 | 1869 | ||
| HARPER, Frank | Son | Single | M | 7 | 1874 | Scholar | Birmingham, Warwickshire |
| HARPER, George | Son | Single | M | 4 | 1877 | Scholar | Birmingham, Warwickshire |
| Marriages Sep 1875 | ||||||
| Harper | George | | Birmingham | 6d | 75 | |
| LANE | Drussilla | | Birmingham | 6d | 75 |
Drusilla was George’s second wife - on the 1911 census she says she has had 3 children who are still living.
The children born before 1875 are by George’s first wife (probably Elizabeth) if 1871 census below is correct and if it is it looks like both George and Elizabeth have been married previously
George Harper married Elizabeth Jordan September quarter 1867 Aston 6d 313
1871 census transcription details for: Coventry Road, Aston, Birmingham
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| RG number: | RG10 |
| Piece: | 3138 |
| Folio: | 23 |
| Page: | 40 |
| Reg. District: | Aston |
| Sub District: | Deritend |
| Parish: | Aston |
| Enum. District: | 27 |
| Ecclesiastical District: | |
| City/Municipal Borough: | Birmingham |
| Address: | Coventry Road, Aston, Birmingham |
| County: | Warwickshire |
| Name | Relation | Condition | Sex | Age | Birth Year | Occupation | Where Born |
| HARPER, George | Head | M | 44 | 1827 | Shropshire | ||
| HARPER, Elizebth | Wife | F | 38 | 1833 | Staffordshire | ||
| HARPER, Phebe | Daughter | F | 15 | 1856 | Warwickshire | ||
| HARPER, Georgina | Daughter | F | 12 | 1859 | Warwickshire | ||
| HARPER, Emily | Daughter | F | 7 | 1864 | Warwickshire | ||
| HARPER, Elizebth | Daughter | F | 2 | 1869 | Warwickshire | ||
| JORDAN, Thomas J | Son In Law By Marriage | M | 10 | 1861 | Warwickshire |
Hello, I think Sydney was my grandads brother
Lyn Walker
knowlegable brummie
Hi Tiggy
I was looking fro descendents of Elsie and Sydney, I think they had a son Sydney who married Edna Heaps ( Southall ) they had no children although I think she had one by her first marriage, the daughter Edna Jean married Lawrence Bowen and I think they had 2 sons Alan and Paul, I have sent for the marriage certificate
Lyn Walker
He was my Great Uncle.
John Winfield
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John Winfield
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I have some information on E. Heaps / Southall descendents if you are still interested.
