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Midland Red Early Days

Thylacine

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WELCOME TO THE MIDLAND RED EARLY DAYS (MRED) THREAD!

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Frontispiece (click to enlarge): Lloyd's "outrageous" 2010 colouring (which turns out to be remarkably historically accurate!) of a Josiah Allen engraving of Dr William Church's 1833 steam carriage. The primaeval Midland Red double-decker, seen on the Coventry Road.

If you are looking for specific information, go to the MRED Index. Otherwise, enjoy your browsing!

I am starting this thread as a vehicle (excuse the pun!) for the discussion of the early days of the Birmingham and Midland Motor Omnibus Co Ltd (BMMO = Midland "Red"). Let's say from the formation of the companies that came together as BMMO, up to the end of World War 1.

Perhaps I'll start with a question: does anyone know of a surviving Tilling-Stevens TTA1 or TTA2 (or TS3 for that matter) in working order?
 
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TS3's, a few. Amberley Museum, Sussex, has one from a forerunner of the Southdown company, and another charabanc version under restoration; an enthusiast from London has a genuine Tilling one; and I remember there used to be one bodied as a lorry attend rallies some years ago.
 
The 'petrol-electric' system was an early attempt at automatic transmission: the engine drove a generator, and an electric motor drove the rear axle. Electrical switching gave a reverse ability and 'low ratio' equivalent for hill climbing. Here's the Amberley chassis showing the components. Dynamo is red, motor grey.
 
Hi Lloyd:My edit seems to have disappeared but I did mean Midland Red not Midland Reach. It's that Manhattan I'm having
that's done it.
 
Many thanks Lloyd. Great pictures and video. I'm happy to know there are a few survivors in running order. Some were even exported to Australia: I've seen a picture of a Tilling-Stevens double-decker running in Launceston, Tasmania (my present home town) in the early 1900s.

I'm working on some questions relating to the very early days of BMMO. Those Midland Red volumes are keeping me busy!
 
Employment of conductresses in World War 1.

Thomas Tilling employed the first conductress (or "conductorette") in London (Mrs G Duncan) on 1 November 1915. We start to see Midland Red conductresses in the contemporary photographs from about 1915. Two questions arise:

1. When did Midland Red employ the first conductress? 2. When did Midland Red let the last conductress go after the war?

As a matter of interest here (https://www.20thcenturylondon.org.uk/server.php?show=conInformationRecord.49) is the story of London General conductress Florence Cordell (1885-1992).

And here (https://www.ltmcollection.org/photo...heme=Wartime&_IXFIRST_=87&IXenlarge=i0000701#) is an analysis of the previous occupations of conductresses employed by London General in 1916.

Any information about the Midland Red situation as regards conductresses in World War 1 (28 July 1914 to 11 November 1918) would be welcome, including pictures, names, reminiscences etc.
 
I think it's fascinating to see anything on record about the early days of Midland Red. The firm did some amazing things, and had an amazing structure with two strong guiding lights, who it is hard to imagine would always be in harmony. The two Good Books about the company mentioned in previous posts (you might call them the Old and New Testaments) tell us a lot, but there is so much more history that might one day be put on record. The introduction to Volume 1 refers to the dynamic duo, and adds that Mr Howley, Chairman of the Board of Directors from 1916 to 1946, must have been an exceptional man too.
On the technical side, Mr Shire's activities seem particularly interesting. I often wonder about the the circumstances in which he took six motor buses down to Deal and ran them there from 1907 until about 1910, before returning to Brum to replace the horse fleet.
That would have been in the days when the Midland Red Company was a member of the Birmingham and Midland Tramways Joint Committee, its other partners being the Birmingham and Midland Tramways Co Ltd (Brum to Dudley via Smethwick and Oldbury), City of Birmingham Tramways Co Ltd (routes within Greater Birmingham, taken over by Corporation 1911), Dudley, Stourbridge & District Electric Traction Co Ltd, South Staffordshire Tramways (Lessee) Co. Ltd (Bham to Dudley and Darlaston, connections to Walsall, Willenhall, Tipton), Wolverhampton District Electric Tramways Co Ltd. The demise of the City of Birmingham Tramways Co in 1911, saw a major re-structuring of the area management, and Midland Red shook off much of the connection with the tram companies, although it was often called in to compete with pirate buses filching business from the trams in the 1920s, and of course Midland Red was the preferred successor to the tram companies when they failed. Some Councils preferred to operate their own tramways or (in the case of West Brom) preferred to have Birmingham Corporation do it for them.
You can be sure Wyndham Shire was involved in the fruitless discussions with the Daimler Company in 1911, and was responsible for the decision to use Tilling-Stevens petrol-electric transmission. The speed with which the two men replaced the horse-bus fleet and expended their empire by 1914 is quite amazing, especially as the Corporation had bought out the routes within the city.
Perhaps O C Power scored more Brownie points on the expansion of routes during World War 1, but Wyndham Shire did well to procure 40 new chassis and a variety of bodies to operate them in wartime.
A fascinating story indeed.
Peter
 
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Thanks Peter W for that valuable contribution. You raise some interesting points.

When the new BMMO began operations on 1 August 1905 the traffic manager was our friend Orlando Cecil Power (1879 to Oct 1943) but the engineer was one George Pollard. Three months later Pollard left for London to become second engineer to the London Motor Omnibus Co Ltd (soon to be well-known for the Vanguard fleetname). He may even have driven the Thornycroft double-decker (O1279) which was returned to London about this time - it had been hired by Birmingham Motor Express (BME) in March 1905. Replacing Pollard as BMMO engineer was H H Gregory who apparently was not too cluey about motor buses. From October 1906 BMMO took delivery of nine Brush "B" double-deck buses (O1283-1291) with 40 hp engines (by Peter Brotherhood according to Midland Red Volume 2 page 222 - not Mutel). It is six of these buses (O1283-1286, O1288 and O1291) which made the 200 mile journey to Deal early in 1908 (after BMMO gave up on motor buses on 5 October 1907). It is at Deal that we first hear of Loftus George Wyndham Shire as the engineer in charge of the Brush buses (see picture on page 19 of Midland Red Volume 1 - top right).

How did these buses come to travel such a great distance? In March 1905 BET had registered a subsidiary called British Automobile Development Co Ltd (BAD) to "manufacture, sell, hire or operate motor omnibuses" in various parts of Great Britain. BAD seems to have been run by Sidney Emile Garcke (6 Jan 1885 - 3 Oct 1948) son of BET managing director Emile Oscar Garcke (1856 to 14 Nov 1930). BAD (renamed to British Automobile Traction Co Ltd (BAT) about April 1910) took responsibility for the Deal buses. I have even read that Sidney Garcke himself drove one of them from Birmingham to Deal! These six Brush buses form the nucleus of the Deal and District Motor Services fleet which later formed part of the East Kent Road Car Co Ltd.

It seems that young Sidney Garcke had more faith in the motor bus than his father who was much more an "electric tramway man".

What I would like to know is how Wyndham Shire became involved. Where did he come from and how did he develop his engineering talents?

Also any information on these early BMMO people would be good: engineer George Pollard (former general manager and engineer of BME); secretary J A Lycett; chairman W R Taylor (former general manager then chairman of BME); H H Gregory ("engineer"). Places and dates of birth and death, career details, pictures (?!?!).

And who was R W Cramp who is given as BMMO general manager on a very early company notice (see Midland Red Volume 1 rear endpapers: "BANK HOLIDAY" notice). I've never heard of him before!

We know that O C Power began his public transport career on 27 Sep 1899 as secretary of the Birmingham General Omnibus Co Ltd (BGO) when it became a BET subsidiary. The manager of BGO was one R Fairbairn. Am I right in assuming that this is the same person as Richard Robert "Dicky" Fairbairn (27 May 1867 to 17 October 1941) who was manager of Worcester Tramways Co Ltd from 1894. If so there's quite a bit of information available about him (eg mayor of Worcester in 1940).

Sorry for such a long post but I want to get the chronology and dramatis personae right!
 
Regarding conductoress' on the Red I don't know when they were first employed but I do know that the the company employed women right through to the 1970's at some garages until 100% one person operation throughout the company was achieved. Many went on to become drivers whilst some transfered to the West Midlands Passenger Transport Executive with Midland Red work in 1973. When I first worked at Digbeth in the early 1960's there was even a uniformed Women's Welfare Officer who spent a day at the garage every a week to look after 'the girls' most of whom were Irish by that time.
 
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Thanks for that Mike. Obviously not such an issue since WW2 but quite an historical event during WW1. Here in Launceston (Tasmania) at least 60% of the bus drivers are women (all one person operation of course). Seriously showing my age here, but I confess I can hardly tell the different makes of bus apart these days!!??!! And I travel on the buses quite a lot - I gave up my car a few months ago. I can tell an air-conditioned one when I get on (especially in our recent sweltering summer). Our buses very kindly ease down to let you on: I suppose that's common everywhere. On those early buses you had quite a climb to get in even a single-decker. Do you know when Midland Red employed the first woman driver?
 
Hi
Sorry to be absent from this discussion, the early history of BMMO and its early 'personalities' is of great interest to me, and I and several others from BaMMOT (Wythall Museum) are currently researching this theme. Sadly my computer fried itself last night (I am temporarily using my son's laptop for this) and so my ability to 'call up' the relevant information is temporarily (I hope) severely limited, except to recall that having researched Loftus George Wyndham Shire's ancestry, he disappears from view for the important years between 1911 when he was lodging at
Somerby House, Stanley Road, Deal, Kent, his occupation being 'Manager, Bus Co' - obviously Deal and District, and 1916 on his discharge from the TA (he had enlisted in the London Divisional Electrical Engineers in 1908 from an address in Terrapin Rd, Upper Tooting, London) when his given address is 233 Hagley Rd Birmingham.
Being an electrical engineer, and in the bus industry, he must have heard of W.A. Stevens' company in Maidstone and their association with Thomas Tilling (bus operators in London and Brighton) and the development of the Tilling-Stevens petrol-electric bus design but exactly how he came to be the man who came with them to Birmingham is not clear - Deal and District was owned by BMMO at the time Garcke jnr took the Brush buses there and Shire became manager, but we can find no evidence that he came to Birmingham before that, and speculate that he was recruited locally in Kent.
It is possible that he was trained by Tilling-Stevens at the Maidstone factory at the request of BMMO or BET to accompany the vehicles ordered - they were possibly the first 'sale' of Tilling-Stevens vehicles outside the Tilling organisation.

Re 'Dicky' Fairburn, his son (another Richard) spent most of his retirement as caretaker on site at the then young Tramway Museum at Crich, Derbyshire in the mid 1960s, and I knew him as I was an early volunteer worker there during school holidays and at weekends.
 
Thanks for the update Lloyd. So sorry to hear about your computer playing up and hope you can recover the data (which can often be done from "fried" hard drives).

So Wyndham Shire didn't come to Birmingham until the Tilling-Stevens TTA1s were delivered?

What about this man R W Cramp? Ever hear of him?
 
Thanks for the update Lloyd. So sorry to hear about your computer playing up and hope you can recover the data (which can often be done from "fried" hard drives).

I hope so, I think it is the motherboard that fried. I have some stuff backed up outside the computer, but not all.

So Wyndham Shire didn't come to Birmingham until the Tilling-Stevens TTA1s were delivered?

We don't think so, there are no references to him here before then.

What about this man R W Cramp? Ever hear of him?

Other than the same you have seen, no.
 
Just done a 1911 search for J.A. Lycett and found:

At Castle Hill, Wolverley, Kidderminster:
James Albert LYCETT age 46 born Lye (Stourbridge) Worcs - Managing Director, Electric traction power + lighting (company)
Mary Ann LYCETT (wife) age 47 born Cleobury Mortimer, Salop
Percival James LYCETT (son) age 19 born Wollaston, Worcs - Science student, Birmingham university
Dorothy LYCETT (daughter) age 17 born Wollaston, Worcs - Musical student
William Bernard LYCETT (son) age 16 born Wollaston - Student chartered accountant
Irene Annie LYCETT (daughter) age 14 born Wollaston, Worcs - Scholar
Ella Norah LYCETT (daughter) age 12 born Wollaston, Worcs - Scholar
John Francis Wheeler LYCETT (son) age 11 born Tipton
Sydney Geoffrey LYCETT (son) age 7 born Wolverley
Winston Albert LYCETT (son) age 5 born Wolverley
Annie LYCETT (sister) age 53 - Housekeeper
Mary Horton age 27 born Kentish Town, London - domestic servant.

I knew he was overall manager of the Birmingham and Midland Joint Tramways, his name is seen on pictures of some of the 'company' trams of the time.
 
Regarding the start of women driver's, the fact that the Red took this official photo of 'lady drivers' posing with suitably fleet numbered 1944 (CHA 3) in 1944 suggests that could be the year in question. Note the masked headlamps on Charlie 3 as this bus was known.
 
Thanks Mike. Great picture isn't it? That seems to be the year they started. The caption to a similar picture of Charlie 3 (Midland Red Volume 2 page 27 - sorry, I don't have a scanner) states "the maximum number of lady drivers at one time was 21 - during the war - and the last of the lady driver recruits retired from Oldbury in 1964" (does anyone know her name?). Presumably at some time after World War 2 Midland Red again recruited women drivers.
 
Lloyd (just so you don't have to do all the hard work!) I've scanned the London Gazette (https://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx) for mentions of James Albert Lycett:

29 Aug 1892: JAL (of Wollaston near Stourbridge) appointed receiver of the Lye Co-operative Society Ltd.
25 Nov 1898: JAL (same place) mentioned as repository for BET plans connected with the Kinver Light Railway Order 1897.
28 Dec 1906: JAL (of Castle Hill, Wolverley) appointed Land Tax Commissioner.
01 Mar 1907: JAL (Birmingham) partnership with George Conaty (Birmingham) and George Fairclough (Manchester) dissolved (relating to a patent for "Conaty's Quick-Acting Brake").
25 Mar 1925: JAL partnership with John Francis Wheeler Lycett (as Lycett & Son, farmers of Castle Hill, Wolverley) dissolved by mutual consent.
 
I don't ever recall seeing postwar adverts to recruit women drivers specifically and in my time there we didn't have a woman driver at Digbeth until when in the 1980's National Bus Company era we had a girl coach driver start on Midland Red (Express) Ltd who had passed her PSV with Whittles Coaches. Several women went driving at other garages as one manning took it's toll of their conducting jobs but the conductress's at Digbeth left, retired or transferred to the West Midlands PTE in 1973 rather than have to drive.
 
Thanks again Mike. Your personal knowledge of Midland Red is much appreciated. It sounds as if the list of Midland Red women drivers is a very short one!

A sad note re James Albert Lycett. His second son William Bernard Lycett was killed in action (aged just 22) on the Somme on 24 July 1916 (Second Lieutenant Northamptonshire Regiment attached to the 1/5th Glosters).
 
The Daimler Motor Co Ltd (Coventry) and the "KPL" bus. (Peter W referred to this briefly in his earlier post).

In 1911 Daimler of Coventry (which was by this time quite independent of the German firm Daimler Motoren Gesellschaft) began negotiations with BMMO proposing to supply motor omnibuses. Birmingham Corporation was also involved in the discussions but lacked the powers to operate omnibuses at that time. See Midland Red Volume 1 page 5.

The vehicle proposed by Daimler was the "very advanced" KPL type of which a prototype (with Coventry registration DU1251, green livery and "Daimler" fleetname) was tried out by Midland Red on the Hagley Rd service for "about a month" (Peter Hardy says "for several months") in 1911. On page 19 of Midland Red Volume 1 there is a fine picture of this unusual double-decker amidst a crowd of onlookers and with O C Power himself on the upper deck.

What did "KPL" stand for? "K" was for American inventor Charles Yale Knight (1868-1940) who invented the sleeve valve in 1903 and secured a British patent for a sleeve-valve engine on 6 June 1908 (and a US patent in 1910). "P" was for Belgian gunmaker (another gunmaker Lloyd!) Henri Pieper (30 Oct 1840 to 23 Aug 1898) who invented the "Auto-Mixte" hybrid petrol-electric system. And "L" was for English polymath Dr Frederick William Lanchester (23 Oct 1868 to 8 Mar 1946) who from 1909 was technical consultant to Daimler and designed the KPL bus. Interestingly Lanchester had a workshop in the 1890s at Five Ways (Ladywood Rd, Birmingham) where he designed and built advanced petrol engines and automobiles.

The Daimler KPL project came to nothing, largely due to a threatened (or real) patent infringement action by Thomas Tilling Ltd who had an interest in the rival W A Stevens petrol-electric system. So the Tilling-Stevens became the motor bus of choice when BMMO once again ventured into the field from 1912.
 
Another advanced feature of the Daimler KPL bus was that its bodywork was of all-metal construction, an idea that took until the 1930s to become the industry's norm. Fred Lanchester was also responsible for the worm drive to the rear wheels, not a differential as we understand final drives as the bus had two engine and transmission units, one each side. This idea of hanging the engine on the side of the bus was not reused in the UK until George Rackham designed AEC's 'Q' type of the 1930s. The KPL really was the "rocket science" of the day, and had it not infringed Percy Frost-Smith's (of Tilling-Stevens) petrol-electric transmission patent, the development of the British motor bus could have been very different.

W.A. Stevens had previously supplied electric transmissions to Dennis, of Guildford (Walsall Corporation ran some Dennis-Stevens buses), but the arrangement with Tilling was for 'sole use' so the production of Dennis-Stevens chassis ended.

Percy Frost-Smith later left Tilling Stevens and for a while ran his own bus company in London, the F-S Petrol-Electric Omnibus Company, using vehicles of his own make (Frost-Smiths) but the venture failed and PFS was left penniless. Details of the winding up can be found in the London Gazette.

The Frost-Smith family, incidentally, owned an advertising business which at one time almost monopolised the advertising on London buses and trams, R Frost-Smith & Co Ltd, which wound up in about 1925.
 
Very interesting Lloyd. Frost-Smith sounds like quite a character. The motor bus scene was quite turbulent in those days wasn't it. Especially in London. Plenty of good ideas but perhaps a shortage of good business sense?

Daimler of Coventry set up the Gearless Motor Omnibus Co Ltd on 23 May 1905 in order to promote and operate vehicles like the later KPL. Yet when Gearless put its first buses into service in London (5 April 1913) they were gearbox-equipped (Daimlers of course).

Lloyd, I presume you're familiar with Charles Klapper's Golden Age of Buses which has a wealth of detail on this period. Sadly I'm restricted to the Google Books version which goes blank just when you're getting interested!?!? And Klapper is not always right: he says that the K in KPL stands for J H Knight. John Henry Knight of Farnham was a motor vehicle pioneer but had nothing to do with the sleeve valve and the "Silent Knight" engine.

Your mention of Walsall reminds me that successful as Midland Red was at this period, they didn't always get their own way! More to come.
 
The Midland Red Walsall Saga 1913-1919.

Perhaps in anticipation of the "Birmingham Agreement" BMMO began a service on 24 Dec 1913 from Birmingham (Kew St) to Walsall (Leicester St). The service was licensed by Birmingham Corporation and Perry Barr Urban District Council and had the consent of Walsall Corporation.

Walsall Corporation however had its own plans regarding omnibuses and launched its first service (Walsall - Cannock - Hednesford) on 23 May 1915.

On 30 June 1917 Walsall Corporation withdrew consent for the BMMO service to enter the city of Walsall. Midland Red attempted to circumvent this by terminating the service on private property at Darwall Garage yard (Darwall St) where passengers were set down and picked up. Walsall chief constable Alexander Thomson took BMMO to court, resulting in a conviction and a fine of one pound in three cases.

Midland Red appealed the conviction on 18 April 1918, contending that their omnibuses were not "standing or plying for hire in any street". The court (judges Atkin, Avory and Darling) dismissed the appeal (judge Darling dissenting). So BMMO had to terminate the service. The court case is interesting in that Tilling-Stevens TS3 registration OA4567 is specifically mentioned as one of the offending vehicles.

In 1919 all was resolved when BMMO and Walsall Corporation reached an agreement defining respective areas of operation.

There used to be a transcript of the court case on the internet but I can't find it now. Fortunately I downloaded a copy if anyone wants more details (it's a fairly dry legal argument).
 
I have been doing some ferretting and have discovered the following.
Emile Oscar Garcke (born Saxony, 1856 – died London? 1930)
He joined the Anglo-Brush Electric Light Corporation, an American subsidiary, as Secretary in 1883, rising to become Manager in 1887 and Managing Director of its successor company, Brush Electrical Engineering Co. In 1895 he formed (with fellow directors and city financial backing) the British Electric Traction (Pioneer) Co. Ltd, and a year later the British Electric Traction Co. Ltd. was registered on 26 October 1896, with Charles Rivers Wilson as Chairman, Emile Garcke as Managing Director, Stephen Sellon and John S Raworth as Engineers.
Garcke had already given evidence on light railways on behalf of the London Chamber of Commerce to a Board of Trade Committee, as a result of which the Light Railways Act was passed. This gave a fillip to the promotion of what were virtually street tramways by an easier means than the procedure laid down by the Tramways Act, which also had some penal clauses by which the tramway had to be given back to the local authorities after 21 years. This inhibited the process of investing in electrification of them and Garcke’s campaigns for fairer treatment of investors in tramways caused him many disputes with local government. The British Electric Traction Co. Ltd. set up tramway undertakings in many areas and electricity generating concerns in rather fewer, although before the grid system had been thought of any small traction concern had to have its individual power supply. In 1901 the BET bought out the Brush Company, becoming a manufacturer as well as an operator of electric tramways, by that year, J S Raworth MIEE, was on the Board, and Wilson had become Sir Charles Rivers Wilson. Also by that year, the company had laid 124 miles of electric tramway around Britain.
Garcke was a keen publisher of electrical books and pamphlets throughout his life, which is how the “Manuals” came to be published and even continued long after his death. He was also Chairman of Metropolitan Electric Tramways by 1929 and died in 1930 aged 74. He had been a prominent member of the then Institution of Electrical Engineers (IEE) for 41 years. His obituary, printed in the Journal of the IEE that same year, paid tribute to the ferocious energy he put towards his work, but also honoured his more personal side; despite his concentration on electrical finance and administration, Garcke was a keen family man with a wife and a son. He also found time to pursue other interests, such as helping to found the British Institute of Philosophical Studies. The author sums up the obituary with these words: ‘To come into personal touch with him was to gain the impression of an intensely alive, alert, sincere and active mind; those who were still more intimately associated with him knew the generosity, kindliness and unwavering integrity of his nature.’ In 1882 Garcke married Alice, daughter of John Withers, a brush manufacturer; and the couple had at least one son Sydney Emile Garcke.

James Albert Lycett, born 1864
He was educated at Oldswinford Hospital, and entered the office of a firm of solicitors, where he became managing clerk. In 1891 he became Assistant Clerk to the Stourbridge Board of Guardians, Clerk to Kingswinford Rural District Council in 1894, and was also engaged as Assessor for Mines to the Stourbridge Union Assessment Committee. Before joining BET in March 1896, he had advocated a light railway from Dudley to Kidderminster via Kingswinford and Kinver. He gave up his other duties on joining BET. Lycett’s appointment was as Birmingham District Superintendent of the BET, covering the counties of Warwick, Worcester, Oxford, South Stafford, Montgomery, Shropshire, Radnor and Cardigan. His name was partnered with that of George J Conaty, (b. Hazelwood Yorks, July 1860), for the patented design of braking system and also a basic truck frame. Conaty had worked for Thos. Green & Son of Leeds, but for a time was Engineer, Secretary and Manager of the Dublin and Lucan Steam Tramway Company. He was engaged as Engineer to Birmingham and Midlands Tramways Ltd in 1893, but became responsible for other companies including the City of Birmingham Tramways Co, Ltd until it was taken over by the Corporation.
On that occasion, Lycett was given £1000 for loss of office as Managing Director of the CoBTC, despite his other company directorships.
He must have foreseen the limited future for the Black Country Trams once Midland Red got their buses on the road, and with the loss of their son in 1916 may well have decided to get out of the transport business.

R W Cramp, born 1863
Robert Walter Cramp was appointed as Secretary and General Manager of Birmingham and Midland Tramways Ltd in July 1893. He had become the Manager of the Accrington Corporation Steam Tramways concern in 1886, and moved to Blackburn in a similar position in 1888, becoming Secretary and manager two years later.
He kept his BMT post after the BET took over the Board in January 1900, and many of the old BMT members resigned later that year, and by February 1901 the Board had been reconstituted mainly with BET people. Cramp remained as Secretary but not Manager. In May 1901, Cramp was again appointed Manager of the B&MT, but also of the Dudley Stourbridge & District Company from July 1901 for an extra £25 per annum. After only 16 years with the company, Cramp retired in June 1911, and was replaced by W G A Bond (born 1863; Sandhurst-trained and commissioned in 1883: took course in submarine telegraphy 1886; joined editorial staff of “Electrical Engineering’ in 1888, becoming Editor in 1895 and resigning in 1897; joined BET in 1899 and became Secretary of Committee for Associated Undertakings and Superannuation Fund, as well as producing early issues of BET “Monthly Gazette’. As the fortunes of the Black Country tramways fizzled out, Bond remained as Secretary and Manager of the rump body, apparently until the end in 1930. The last Dudley - Stourbridge and Dudley - Tipton - Wednesbury trams rolled on 1 March, 1930.

A little-known snippet.
In 1930, Patrick Treanor was appointed District Superintendent of Midland Red at Dudley Garage, but he was also responsible for all negotiations with Birmingham Corporation concerning operation of the 87 tram route, while the current owner of the track (the Birmingham & District Investment Trust) was responsible for maintenance from West Smethwick Depot.

I also enclose a copy of the interesting genealogy of Birmingham bus companies done by Alec Jenson in 1951 and included in his excellent article which appeared in the Omnibus Society paper in the 1960s I think.
Peter W
 
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Thank you for the extra details, Peter. I can advise that Emile Garcke died in Maidenhead (4th quarter 1930 Maidenhead vol 2c page 483), probably at his home 'Ditton House', Pinkneys Green, Maidenhead.
Here he is,the 'Father of British Tramways', Emile Oscar Garcke.
 
Thanks Peter for all those lovely facts! Robert Walter Cramp is no longer a mystery man.

Lloyd, that's a fine picture of Emile Oscar Garcke. I'm going to display it on my desktop for a while to inspire me!
 
Robert Walter Cramp (2nd quarter 1863 to 19 May 1952) was the younger brother of Charles Courtney Cramp (1850-1932), a London-based tramway contractor and engineer. C C Cramp and Richard Lawrence Cosh were in business as Cosh & Cramp (what a wonderful name!) and were involved in the construction of tramways in Accrington and Blackburn. Cosh & Cramp established the firm Blackburn Corporation Tramways Co Ltd (with C C Cramp as chairman) in 1886 to operate the Corporation-owned tramway. Evidently young Robert Walter Cramp is following in his big brother's footsteps until he breaks away and joins BMT in 1893.

Thanks to Duncan Holden's excellent website Blackburn Transport Net (https://homepage.ntlworld.com/duncan.holden46/) which strangely seems not to mention R W Cramp.
 
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