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Metro Progress 2022

John L

master brummie
Nothing said about the route from Bull Street to the Library and no apology for not starting that service back up as was planned. I see that "essential maintenance work" will lead to further closures and replacement bus services too:

Sunday 12th June until Weds 15th June:

From 22:00 trams will operate between Wolverhampton St George’s and Black Lake only.
There will be no services after 22:00 between Black Lake and Birmingham city centre on these days.

Sunday 19th June:

From 22:00 trams will operate between Wolverhampton St George’s and Wednesbury Parkway only.
There will be no services after 22:00 between Wednesbury Parkway and Birmingham city centre.

Mon 20th June until 22nd June, Sun 26th June until Weds 29th June, Sun 3rd July and Mon 4th July:

From 22:00 trams will operate between Wednesbury Parkway and Bull Street only.
There will be no services after 22:30 between Wolverhampton St George’s and Wednesbury Parkway on these days.
 

Heartland

master brummie
It was announced on West Midlands Radio BBC that the trams started to run to Bull Street in Birmingham on Thursday 9th June.

It was also said that the fleet in use would be 12 in number with the rest of the fleet undergoing body panel replacement.
Of that 12 there are 8 which are said to be new from the makers.
This would imply that only 4 of the original fleet are fit for service. Which is an alarming piece of information. If it takes about 3 months to repair 4 trams, the rate of progress to repair all the trams might need another year, at least, unless the process of repair is speeded up!
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
Even more concerning is that in the previous BBC report it was stated that the new trams had been bought. So this means that substandard trams which failed due to either poor design or cheap materials were not replaced by the manufacturer, but that the authority had spent money replacing them. Arthur Daley rides again, but now lives in Spain
 

John L

master brummie
I think it also said that the repairs had been done at the expense of the manufacturer, but it seems that they are adopting the term "manana" when it comes to the speed of carrying out the repairs. I can't believe they have bought new trams, having been sold a pup once, it's beyond belief, that they would go back to buy more.....:rolleyes:
 
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mikejee

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The whole construction project seems to have been handled very spasmodically. Not in the construction trade myself, but from what I hear it has been subcontracted to lots of firms who hire people virtually on a weekly basis. Maybe that's the way the industry is run nowadays, but it would not have worked for Brunel or his competitors
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
I only watch progress of work on the Midland Metro via the internet and see that trams can now run from Wolverhampton to Bull Street. I'm puzzled as to why they do not run to New Street Station ?
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
Surely that is the point. Why not to the station (Stephenson ST)? Thus giving a connection between the tram and the trains, .
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
Isn't Stephenson Street near enough for you?
When they laid the extension from Snow Hill Station to New Street Station the tram terminus was in Stephenson Street outside the entrance to New Street Station. Trams ran on the extension until for some reason they dug it all up and relaid the track. I suppose my question is 'if there are some trams running to Bull Street - why don't they now continue the short distance to New Street Station?'

I only see the Midland Metro news via the internet but have seen and been close up to the Metrolink Trams in Manchester.
 

John L

master brummie
Or to the library again, oldMohawk. It's a very good question, but Midland Metro doesn't seem to want to give the answer. It doesn't seem too much to ask for them to provide the same service that they previously did, if they want to claim it's up & running again.
 

Spargone

master brummie
When they laid the extension from Snow Hill Station to New Street Station the tram terminus was in Stephenson Street outside the entrance to New Street Station. Trams ran on the extension until for some reason they dug it all up and relaid the track. I suppose my question is 'if there are some trams running to Bull Street - why don't they now continue the short distance to New Street Station?'

I only see the Midland Metro news via the internet but have seen and been close up to the Metrolink Trams in Manchester.
A 'Covid Consequence'? Must admit it has been some time since I have been near New Street.
Just goes to show that Modern Railways was right 50 years ago when it said trams are just vanity projects. (Edinburgh had to close its modern trams to dig up the roads to move underground services). Buses are far more flexible. In a city like Birmingham there could even be electric buses topping up their battery at each bus stop, no need for overheads, but could be used where convenient.
 

devonjim

master brummie
A 'Covid Consequence'? Must admit it has been some time since I have been near New Street.
Just goes to show that Modern Railways was right 50 years ago when it said trams are just vanity projects. (Edinburgh had to close its modern trams to dig up the roads to move underground services). Buses are far more flexible. In a city like Birmingham there could even be electric buses topping up their battery at each bus stop, no need for overheads, but could be used where convenient.
Seems a "no brainer" to me. I've tried to understand this passion for "trams" but just think they are a quarter of a century out dated.
 

John L

master brummie
When the trams work they are great for getting around town, particularly for those with mobility issues, sadly they don't work or fully run, often enough. :( Manchester do not seem to have experienced the problems that we have during the years their trams, have been in operation in the city centre and despite their claims, we remain the second city, albeit a city with a second rate tram system.
 

Heartland

master brummie
When the trams run they provide a better service to Bilston, Wednesbury, and West Bromwich. For those who catch the 74 or 75 bus the traffic on the road can delay buses and the journey becomes akin to purgatory.

As to buying new trams, the contracts were probably in place for a new supply for the Edgbaston Extension before the current problems arose last summer.

In fact, bus travel in this area has changed with the introduction of community bus routes that travel alongside routes to pick up and drop off passengers, with less direct routes between places.
 

John L

master brummie
The Metro extension to 54 Hagley Road is now six months overdue, but the Midland Metro Alliance said on Tuesday that they still aim to have it open for the Games, which begin on 28th July, although currently it still doesn't go any further than Bull Street!

The scheme is now entering it's sixth year since construction began, so the 1.2 mile route will have taken longer to complete than the Eiffel Tower, Golden Gate Bridge, Empire State Building, Blackpool Tower and the original Birmingham - London Railway railway line in the 1830s did!
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
The Metro extension to 54 Hagley Road is now six months overdue, but the Midland Metro Alliance said on Tuesday that they still aim to have it open for the Games, which begin on 28th July, although currently it still doesn't go any further than Bull Street!

The scheme is now entering it's sixth year since construction began, so the 1.2 mile route will have taken longer to complete than the Eiffel Tower, Golden Gate Bridge, Empire State Building, Blackpool Tower and the original Birmingham - London Railway railway line in the 1830s did!
shocking john but i am not surprised

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