Thank you. Anything that may help but I know records don't always give what we are looking for. I'm revisiting John W Hadley 1857 and Emily portlock 1858 as Emily's records have thrown me. I know she married John 1878 as I have that marriage ban etc but after getting married the records for Emily throw doubt on the children she had. Her birth years range from 58-63. And so too the children had and her parents. I'm trying to figure that out, which is doing my head in lol so anything on matilda may be a welcome relief lol