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Market Hall 1835 - 1963

Astoness said:
most likely be a lot less confused phil lol... for G..to check if you are set up to receive private messages...hover over your user name top of the page...a box will show..click on contact details...scroll down and tick box that says allow conversations..
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Lyn, sorry, I've only just realised what you have to do regarding settings and the problems it can cause by not using them G
 
Hi All (and by that statement I am not making any suggestion of mass drug abuse). I know some are following this thread since Phil started on 27/04/2011. I thought I would give you a basic update on my story. With the help from many, I have put a book together for my brother in-law Tommy Smith regarding his younger years as a slaughter man at the Birmingham meat market in the 50/60s. The book also contains information regarding the Market Hall, pubs and the whole area. It is amazing that along the way some weird twists and turns developed. A member of the BHF “greart” (hereafter- G) asked about Tommy and we found that Tommy had worked with G’s father for 10 + years. Myself, Tommy and G have exchanged details and have discussed this period. I must say that G has told me that he is a very nice chap :). It is also amazing other connections discovered/discussed. Tommy and Gs wife lived in the same area as children and may have gone to the same school. Tommy used to go to a shop owned by Gs wife’s parents. A relative of Gs wife was Tommy’s GP, he still has the N.I. Medical card with the GPs name on it. G’s daughter lives a quarter of a mile away from where I used to live 4 years ago (A different county). Wow, what else are we going to find out? To be honest, I would not be in the least surprised to find out that as a child I was adopted and G is my true birth mother :). G, thanks (None American) for the photographs of Reggie and the family that you have e-mailed me. What a marvellous addition to have Reggie in Tommy’s book. All, please share our enjoyment. PhilC.
 
hi phil..so pleased that you and G have found each other:D your last post had me in stitches..

G yes using your settings can be very useful...it can take a while to get used to them and find out whats what so if you are unsure of anything give me a shout and i will confuse you even more as i am not the most technical person in the world:D:D

lyn
 
Hi G. I have some pics of the live stock entrance of the market but they're not bril. I'd be happy though if I could get some pics of the Bulls heads to go with them. Someone has to have these.
 
Hi all & Grea. Tommy's Market Hall & Markets, book was completed a couple of weeks ago, he is very pleased with it. I have just completed the DVD and dare I say, the film is better than the
book :) Grea, your DVD will be in the post tomorrow morning, thanks for your help. This DVD is for Tommy, if you want some slight changes, it is no problem, let me know.

Now ........ In the event of someone, some day falling upon this page, I have uploaded a couple of pic that when seen, someone may have better and will let me know.

Thank you all for your help. PhilC.

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Oh, the memories of the old market hall are flooding back! As I was born in the war, I sadly don't recall it in it's complete state but the photos show a magnificent structure that any city in the world should be proud of.

I remember a large bomb that was situated inside the market and we'd sit astride it. To us, it seemed massive. Was it one that failed to go off I wonder? I also recall a pet stall with rabbits and puppies for sale.
 
Fireman Sam said:
Oh, the memories of the old market hall are flooding back! As I was born in the war, I sadly don't recall it in it's complete state but the photos show a magnificent structure that any city in the world should be proud of.

I remember a large bomb that was situated inside the market and we'd sit astride it. To us, it seemed massive. Was it one that failed to go off I wonder? I also recall a pet stall with rabbits and puppies for sale.
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Hello Fireman Sam. Yes the Market Hall and it's whole story is magnificent. If you have not already, look up the whole story of the Market Hall, the meat market slaughter house and other markets, the fountain, the clock, Nelson and life in general around the Market Hall. "Magnificent". There are others on this site that have memories and knowledge that are unbelievable but I believe that I am correct in saying that the bomb that you sat astride in the Market Hall had failed to explode but was made safe :) Lurchphoic
 
Regarding the bomb. In my fuzzy memory I think the bomb was hollow with a slot for donations for maybe restoration of some sort. I know that there was at one time a sea mine by The Hall of remembrance
 
Whoops again, trying to correct the capital R.
I think the "Money Box Mine" was to help support families of those lost at sea.
But as I would have been 3 or 4 I may be right off the mark.
Cheers Tim
 
Hello. The file names I have for these pics are: Pic 1. An unexploded bomb land on RG Boardman and Co in Summer Row, 1942. Pic 2. The FAILDED WWII bomb was used by Birmingham City Council as a collection box for the Lord Mayors Appeal fund. Lurchphoic.
 
tim eborn said:
Whoops again, trying to correct the capital R.
I think the "Money Box Mine" was to help support families of those lost at sea.
But as I would have been 3 or 4 I may be right off the mark.
Cheers Tim
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You are correct Tim. These old mines were sited in many places for charitable collections. They are still to be seen in many coastal towns.
As far as I know different maritime charities had them such as the RNLI and merchant seamen's benevolent funds.
 
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Hi all & Grea. Tommy's Market Hall & Markets, book was completed a couple of weeks ago, he is very pleased with it. I have just completed the DVD and dare I say, the film is better than the
book :) Grea, your DVD will be in the post tomorrow morning, thanks for your help. This DVD is for Tommy, if you want some slight changes, it is no problem, let me know.

Now ........ In the event of someone, some day falling upon this page, I have uploaded a couple of pic that when seen, someone may have better and will let me know.

Thank you all for your help. PhilC.

Re-post due to slightly going away from the Market Hall. Really hoping that one day, some one will read my post and just might have the pics I need. With respect, Lurchphoic.
 
Hi Viv,
Here is a photograph to be what i beleive o be the first market in 1835
And accomodated 600 stalls for thsale of flowers fruit and veg poultry and fish
Please se the enclosed pic,
Alan,, Astonian,,
 

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Thanks Alan. Your statistics on the Smithfield Fruit and Veg thread tell us that many properties on Bell Street, Phillips Street and Worcester Street disappeared after Samuel Bradford's survey in 1750. That would be for the building of the Market Hall. There were long negotiations by the Commissioners to acquire the properties. They were acquired by mid-1831.

But two shop owners on the old site demanded high prices, so two houses with shop fronts were added to the corners of the Market Hall at the Bull Ring end as an exchange or for sale to raise money to buy the two old shops. Following these delays, in 1833 Charles Edge's plans for the building were finally approved.

Viv.
 
It as been on before Lyn, I down loaded it way back and put it in my 'possible painting' file (it is still there) , but multiple entries are better than no entries at all. Eric
 
thanks eric i was not sure...as you say better to have multiples rather than miss a good photo

lyn
 
Most of those pics are a bit before my time but they still stir memories of shopping with my mother.
 
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