Excellent reply MWS....Appreciated on this ....its got me a little further up on the scales now....I ve also managed to find out that John s Daughter was Lillian...and yes....married to a HARRY EAGLES.......really happy with all the responses....made my Christmas so to speak......Hopefully it won t be long before I gather all the information on the TURNERS and the BUTLERS side of the family, with NELLY BUTLER....Thanks againCould it be Mary Carl?
There is a marriage for a Joseph Turner and a Mary Carl registered Bham Sep qtr 1887. And birth registered for a John Turner Bham Mar qtr 1893. No middle name listed but that's not uncommon.
On his marriage to John's daughter H Eagles is listed as Harry but still could have been Henry at birth.