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Looking for information on Smith, Healy, Blake and Steward

Amyhill

proper brummie kid
Hi,

I’m looking to find more information about my family history.
My nans name is Patricia Mary Smith, born October 1952, married to Dennis Michael Steward who was born in December around 1948. My nans mom was called Mary Kathleen Blake who married a miner, Ernest Samuel Smith who passed away 1953 at the age of 29. He unfortunately lost his arm in his early 20s due to a mining accident and the trauma caused bowel cancer. We know that he had 12 brothers and sisters by the names of;
Emily M Smith, born 1918. Arthur J Smith, born 1920. William H Smith, born 1921. Edward T Smith, born 1923. Ernest S Smith, born 1924. Ethel L Smith, born 1925. Edith N Smith, born 1927. Elsie I Smith, born 1928. Irene D Smith, born 1930. Violet J Smith, born 1932. Horace G Smith, born 1934. Albert E Smith, born 1935. Gladys N Smith, born 1936.
My Grandads dad is called Alexander George Steward born in Bethnal Green London 1916. He married Mary Josephine Healy born in Dublin Ireland 1913. Alexander’s mom was called Margaret Ryan, born 1877 in Bermondsey London. She married an Edward Steven Steward who was born in 1875 in Bethnal Green London. They had the following children all born Poplar London; Margaret 1901, Edward 1906, Samuel 1908, May 1910, Francis G Steward 1912, Albert J Steward 1914, Alexander George Steward 1916. Edward, born 1875, died 1942 in Wallingford Berkshire and it is believed Margaret moved to Birmingham following his death as she passed there in 1956.
Any other information or even photos anyone may have would be very appreciated. It would be amazing to find out more about our family history.
 
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MWS

master brummie
Some info on Mary Josephine Healy, I think you did ask about her mother.

On the 1945 electoral roll Alexander and his mother are living at 4 Osborn Place. Also there is a Mary A Healy - his mother in law?

There is a birth registration for a Mary Josephine Healy listed in Dublin 1913, parents George & Mary. Interestingly the dob 14th May is slightly different to the dob on her death registration.

Mary's maiden name appears to be incorrectly listed as Lawlor, is should be Egan. George Healy married Mary Lawlor, a widow formerly Egan, 24th June 1912.

On their next daughter Esther's birth registration it appears to be correctly listed as Egan.

James Lawlor married Mary Egan 11th Feb 1900 Dublin. Mary's father on both marriages is listed as William Egan.

There is a death registration for a Mary A Healy in Bham 1959, age 82.
 

Amyhill

proper brummie kid
Wow, thank you so much for this! I have spoken with my grandad and he now remembers the details you have said. Do you know what James Lawlor passed of, making Mary a widow? Any other information you have would be amazing!! Thank you again
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
hi ..you would need to obtain the death certificate to find out the cause of death
 

Amyhill

proper brummie kid
I’m new to all of this, how do I find certificates for marriage / death etc? also is there a way I can find out the jobs they had along with other information? I have no idea where to start other then here.
 

MWS

master brummie
Unfortunately not. There are a number of deaths registered for a James Lawlor of the right age in the Dublin area between 1901 and 1912 but none of the details give a clue to which of them is his.
 

MWS

master brummie
Also how certain are you that Margaret Steward died in Bham? There is another Margaret Steward of a similar age who was born and lived her whole life in Bham that the 1956 death might be.

There is a death in Poplar for a Margaret Steward of the right age in 1962.
 

Amyhill

proper brummie kid
Hi, from what we have been told before, her husband Edward Steven Steward, who she married in 1911, passed away in 1942 at the age of 67. We have been told that she and the children then moved to Birmingham to be closer to other family but we can’t be sure. I’m having a hard time finding much out about that
 

MWS

master brummie
Of the children of Edward and Margaret you menton it appears that only Alexander moved to Bham.

Margaret Matilda died 1956, Greenwich.
Edward Thomas died 1940, Poplar.
Joseph Samuel died 1911, Poplar.
May Catherine died 2005, Harlow.
Francis George died 1915, Poplar.
Albert James unknown

And there was a Rose Margaret b1900, died 1906 Holborn.
 

Amyhill

proper brummie kid
Thank you so much for all of this information, it’s really helping us all piece together an unknown puzzle! Do you happen to know the dates of births for Margaret’s children? From what my grandads remembers being told, he believes some passed at a very young age but can’t remember. I’m currently trying to find out more information about Mary Josephines dad, William Egan
 

MWS

master brummie
Rose Margaret 1900, Magaret Matilda 1902, Edward Thomas 1904, Joseph Samuel 1908, May Catherine 1910, Francis George 1912, Albert James 1914 & Alexander George 1916.
 
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