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Location wanted for this bus if possible

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It’s been a long time since I posted anything and got the size of the picture wrong, sorry.
 
This is a 1937 Daimler bus which was refurbished in the late 1950's lasting in service until 1960. It is seen here, in 1959, at the stop opposite Spring Hill library in Icknield Street.
 
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Radiorails said:
This is a 1937 Daimler bus which was refurbished in the late 1950's lasting in service until 1960. It is seen here, in 1959, at the stop opposite Spring Hill library in Icknield Street heading towards Hockley
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Is that definite as there seems to be a doubt that it is Spring Hill library. Thanks for your reply.
 
I've just had a close look at the library using GE and it does not seem to match up with the part of the building seen in the bus image, unless part of the library has since been demolished.
 
Phil said:
Gea

I have already answered this question with a guess that is is outside Spring Hill Library on another forum, as I said there I would try to find confirmation, well this photo should be able to do just that.

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If the text with this photo is correct and Spring Hill / Dudley Rd is to the rear of the bus, then, shouldn't the library be on the right? or am I not understanding the written description, John.
 
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If the text with this photo is correct and Spring Hill / Dudley Rd is to the rear of the bus, then, shouldn't the library be on the right? or am I not understanding the written description, John.
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You are correct because if that was the library on the right of the bus, the Dudley Rd - Spring Hill junction could not be behind the bus, it would be immediately in front of the bus.
 
As stated the Spring Hill junction should be in front of the bus and behind it should be the Camden Street junction, but his photo comes from "The Inner Circle number 8 bus route" book and was written by experts on buses not geography and it's possible they got their front and rears mixed up.
 
Pic 1 - A photo of the side of Spring Hill Library.
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Pic 2 - The bus photo with just the building sharpened and contrast levels altered. I have highlighted a feature which does not appear on the library wall as seen in Pic 1. It almost looks like a drain pipe and there are other features which do not match.

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It is not by Spring Hill Library.
 
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I've just gone back to the book I found the photo in, and this photo is below the other image on the same page. It is obviously a different location (don't these books have proof readers). Though I have to believe the location is somewhere in the vicinity surely they can't be that far out can they?

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A map (of sorts) but not many of the roads are similar or even still with us.

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I have removed the reference to Hockley as it would appear it is in the direction of Monument Road. As the road layout was altered considerably by the crossroads at the library I suspect the bus stop, formerly at the commencement of Monument Road, to the other side of the crossroads to be beside the old Theatre (Bulpitts).
The library underwent renovations in recent years so there is the possibility that some minor changes were made and comparisons with the original might have some differences.
 
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no doubt in my mind that the no 8 bus is passing spring hill library...the bus stop on the right is where i got off to go to spring hill rollar rink

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John

That's not the photo that is in dispute, that's one I posted to show the difference.
 
It has been suggested to me on another forum that it could possibly be St Luke's Road Balsall Heath which was used for a diversion route whilst Belgrave & Lee Bank Middleway's were being constructed. There were certainly enough institution type buildings such as schools, churches and children's homes to be found there in the 50's it's worth having a look at.
 
Why I think it is not Spring Hill Library ...:)
In Pic 1 in post#11 the library windows run continuously from about 4ft above street level to elaborate features at their top. In Pic 2 the lower windows finish halfway up and then another set of windows are higher up. Also in Pic 2 there appears to be a roof sloping down to a cornice. The library does not have a cornice or a roof sloping towards it. I have since edited highlight colour on to these features of Pic 2 in #11
 
What was the date of the diversions? I have details of diversions in 1962 but the bus was withdrawn by that time.
Although I do not know when the Belgrave Middleway are clearances in the area commenced it does suggest that it was post 1960.
 
Yes it's St Luke's Church at the junction of St Lukes Road and Bristol Street.

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This thread has got most convoluted. Any new reader of it might have issues sorting the sheep from the goats. It would, I believe, be helpful if answers to questions quoted the post to which they are replying.
I suggest this as we have two photographs both have had definitive answers but there are still some posts doubting the location of the initial photo in Post 1.
Maybe the St. Luke's answer could be relocated to the thread which has Phil's photo in the Sun Street thread. Given that Sun Street no longer seems to exist, it might add to that thread.
 
Altering the light levels in two sections of the image
1. Above the top right corner of the bus there appears to be a tower with pointed sub towers.
2. A 'keep left' sign suggests there is a cross-roads junction and the traffic behind the sign is at an angle showing that the road the bus is on bears to the left from there.
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