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James Upton, listed only as Church Street.

Kat7272

master brummie
In the 1881 census, James Upton born 1851, died 1914, is listed as living at church la, Harborne. There isn't a house number, can anyone help?

I can see old church rd when I Google and on an old map but not church lane????

I am having problems with the national library map search, it will not let me enter anything at the moment.
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
Your title says Church St, I have altered that, having looked at the census. Cannot find any church Lane in Harborne. However, there is a road, labelled on the c 1889 map as Church Road, now named St Peters Road. This is marked ( a bit spottily) in red on the map. As immediately following the page with James Upton on, there is a mention of Albert Road, and Albert Road leads off the marked Church Road, then i believe Church Road was meant.

map c1889 showing old Harborne village.jpg
 

Kat7272

master brummie
Hi Mike, thanks for the alteration, and thanks for the info too, you always deliver, I am grateful.

I don't think I am going to be any wiser than the info you provided Mike. I did think that Church Lane may now be the Old Church lane, but you would have mentioned that in the post above if so.

Of course I was hoping that I may eventually be able to find a house number and locate the house but after the excitement wore off I realised that as there isn't a house number on the census and basically I am done for!!!!

But never mind, I cannot complain, I have been very fortunate in what information I have found so far.
 

Ken_R

master brummie
Of course I was hoping that I may eventually be able to find a house number and locate the house but after the excitement wore off I realised that as there isn't a house number on the census and basically I am done for!!!!
Not necessarily.

If you can find neighbours that are also listed in later Census entries, which also show house numbers then, by elimination (and extropolation;)) it may still be possible to identify the actual residence. That said, in that period, as families grew/or reduced, they could often move to a different address in the same street. Removal vans in that era weren't for the everyday people. They carried their possessions by hand or by cart.

It means a lot of work [to identify the address], maybe even using an Excel Spreadsheet to track the residents through the decades, but there is a possibility that it can be done.:)
 

Kat7272

master brummie
Thanks Ken R, good point. I understand what you mean by elimination and exploration. I have been using Excel spreadsheets at work for over 20 years, so spreadsheets are familiar to me.

I will put that on my to-do list. The magic wand of this forum has struck again!!!!!!:):)
 

Radiorails

master brummie
Anyone who does not have Microsoft Office - or whatever they call it now - or doesn't want to buy it, might consider the free versions, Libre Office or Open office. I have used Libre Office for some while.
 

sospiri

Ex-pat Brummie
Just drifting mildly off-topic, I found a musician today who was using Excel as a drum machine. Excel stored the basic rhythmic patterns and he used samples or the basic FM synthesis built into Windows audio for the actual sounds. I have yet to look at this in any great detail yet, but when I get around to it I will post a sample into a more appropriate thread. Don't hold your breath as I am quite busy with other things at the moment. Meanwhile, back in Harborne........

Maurice :cool:
 

Ken_R

master brummie
I've looked at Open Office but it doesn't seem to support the same Macros. SWMBO does transcribing for LancsOPC (Lancashire Online Parish Clerks Project) https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ which is Spreadsheet based, and I have written a series of Macros that automatically increase/insert image numbers, enable questionable entries to be highlighted [for further consultation/investigation] and to auto-save at specific points, and a few other things.

I got, as a present, some years ago, Office Home and Student 2010. Paid for and on CD with Security Code.

Last year, or so, SWIMBO wanted a new Laptop. Fine. We selected one. Purchased such, and then. when looking to load Office, "Where is the CD slot?" It didn't have one. DOH! :cold_sweat:

Problem solved. I copied the CD to a USB Memory Stick and installed it on the Laptop from there.:)
 
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