First of all I am not suggesting that "J R Turner" was the name that the street was named after that was suggestedI'm afraid Barnard that your suggestion that the road was named after J R Turner is very unlikely to be correct. The evidence for this, which you could have found for yourself rather than asking for information and being offhand with those who offer it, is that the street name first appears in directories in 1878 and 1879 as just "Turner St", a turning off Foundry Road. The street is not itself listed because either there were as then no buildings upon it , or, more likely, no commercial buildings or those other than domestic houses. By the time it is listed with occupants the name has been changed to James Turner St, presumably because it was realised that there was another turner St in Sparkbrook and people then were beginning to realise having two streets with the same name could cause problems and were thus altering names to eliminate this. It would be very unlikely that a street would be named after someone who was at the very most 27 , however well known a politician he later became, or how many houses he later built.
by the his great-grandson I don't know if that is correct or not but is it a real possibility.
As for me be been offhand - Well is all I was asking for was real information with evidence.
I do not consider an article in the Daily Telegraph as evidence.
You say that the "Turner Street" was later renamed "James Turner Street" and listed just when was that ?
Or do you claim the was in 1877 when J R Tuner (b. !850) was 27 prior to the 1878 and 1879 directories ?
You state that it is likely that the name (Turner Street) was changed to eliminate confusion so just why did they pick on "James" ?