Eric Gibson
master brummie
I wonder what a colour version of that would look like, much less drab I'd guess.
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Icknield Street Alert!
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You probably already known Lyn but you have another pub in this photograph.
that building you see is the new rimi cafe it was not a pub never was but what i can tell you originaly that cafe was on the other side of the road right on the very corner of hingestion street and and along side of it was the mint pub which was very full and full of fights
what you see was way back in the sixties it was an old run down cafe and then came along a guy whom thought i will renovate up which he did and named it the rimi cafe he built the trade up but he also brought trouble in there for years and one evening a well known gang of brothers came in with a shot bb by the traffic lights he his still there todaygun and shot the gaffer he was a foreign guy ,i just cannot think of his name at the moment i was involved myself with bother my mate a boxer and myself had to tackle afew of the plonkers there over a girl friend as time marched on it was a troublsom cafe just hanging around doing what they like i could say the names they are a ewell known family on the old site they was there eventual they smashed the place up windows the machines the lot by this time twelve months had lasped then they changed the name to the volcano cafe time marched on bear in mind just by the mint pub and the number eight clock in there was another proper cafe where you could sit have a sandwiche in peace along with the bus drive and things flared up in there and the clearence started they closed it down just like across the road they started orders on the other side it openend up as a cafe but nobody went in from the factorys so it closed down hence some body thought of the original name the rimi but the new rimi then one or two people was crawling for tea coffee but the the compulsary notice went in and as you know all those shops was closed down the end building whom sold cars went to perry barr then he set up on spring hill my brothe
what you see was way back in the sixties it was an old run down cafe and then came along a guy whom thought i will renovate up which he did and named it the rimi cafe he built the trade up but he also brought trouble in there for years and one evening a well known gang of brothers came in with a shot bb by the traffic lights he his still there todaygun and shot the gaffer he was a foreign guy ,i just cannot think of his name at the moment i was involved myself with bother my mate a boxer and myself had to tackle afew of the plonkers there over a girl friend as time marched on it was a troublsom cafe just hanging around doing what they like i could say the names they are a ewell known family on the old site they was there eventual they smashed the place up windows the machines the lot by this time twelve months had lasped then they changed the name to the volcano cafe time marched on bear in mind just by the mint pub and the number eight clock in there was another proper cafe where you could sit have a sandwiche in peace along with the bus drive and things flared up in there and the clearence started they closed it down just like across the road they started orders on the other side it openend up as a cafe but nobody went in from the factorys so it closed down hence some body thought of the original name the rimi but the new rimi then one or two people was crawling for tea coffee but the the compulsary notice went in and as you know all those shops was closed down the end building whom sold cars went to perry barr then he set up on spring hill my brothe
the previuos photograpgh before my thread states there is another pub with in the picture but i am hasnt to say its not emediately starting from the beginning where you see two people standing out side the shops ;
Well that was a second hand shop and walk back but you cannot see it was two more second hand shops ajoining each other because its the same family whom owned them the one where the men standing is the grand parents of the family and it was her whom owned the shops that i know personaly and he was our friend we was in the same class as well at icknield street continue to walk on you see the entry another friend of mind lived up there they was from Aston as well we attended st marys in aston the shop on the front was an old property and that was an old off licence shop closed for donkeys years and was in disrepair then some one bought it and renovated as you see now next to hit there is a series of arched door ways well that stretched belonged to the mint and that buildin was part of there storage section for keeping tons of rolled metals within there look at the end of there building was another shop never done much trade and beyond there contiue along to the end of the picture you will see a white building showing before that building was painted it was an old factory then they was bought out by an ajoing company which was called the birmingham stopper company and thats how it became standing out and that is the corner of ickneild stree and brookfield street Astonian;;;;;
Well that was a second hand shop and walk back but you cannot see it was two more second hand shops ajoining each other because its the same family whom owned them the one where the men standing is the grand parents of the family and it was her whom owned the shops that i know personaly and he was our friend we was in the same class as well at icknield street continue to walk on you see the entry another friend of mind lived up there they was from Aston as well we attended st marys in aston the shop on the front was an old property and that was an old off licence shop closed for donkeys years and was in disrepair then some one bought it and renovated as you see now next to hit there is a series of arched door ways well that stretched belonged to the mint and that buildin was part of there storage section for keeping tons of rolled metals within there look at the end of there building was another shop never done much trade and beyond there contiue along to the end of the picture you will see a white building showing before that building was painted it was an old factory then they was bought out by an ajoing company which was called the birmingham stopper company and thats how it became standing out and that is the corner of ickneild stree and brookfield street Astonian;;;;;
cant say as i knew that kieiron...is it the building far left...great tidy up on the warstone inn thanks
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Great stories Astonian - what is it with you Brummies ... can't get a butty and a cuppa without kicking off? I guess the line was "did you spill my ketchup?"
Anyway, just to clear up the Ivy Tavern bit, I have bundled together all in one image to clarify the building. The derelict shops with the cafe second from left. Then an extract from Kelly's 1901 directory which shows the pub at No.112. Then a more recent map showing No.112 with two more shops before the entry to the court. The entry can be seen in the main pic in the position bearing a relationship with the other evidence. I note that Southall's was still next to the former pub - this was the same business in 1901 - a shoe shop of some longevity! Notice also the Ivy House boarding up above the shop frontage of the former pub. Hope all this helps.
Cheers, Kieron
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Here you go Lyn, the Royal Oak...
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That's two in two days! Now, if anybody has a pic of The Acorn it would totally rock. It was on the opp. side to the library at No.155. This doesn't seem to have been photographed like the rest of the street.
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I have uploaded a map of most of the street with pubs plotted :
https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/icknield-street/index.html#Map
https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/icknield-street/index.html#Map
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I see from this map that the building was almost certainly bombed during the war. The black dots represent High Explosive
Bombs, the red being Incendiary Bombs.
hi kieron bit confused as this thread suggests that the ivy tavern was in icknield square not icknield st
lyn
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-cuckoo-ladywood.15328/#post-635486
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I have hopefully cleared up this confusion at https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-cuckoo-ladywood.15328/#post-635486
hi roberts if our map expert sees your post he should be able to help you with a map also we do have another icknield st thread showing many old photos which may interest you...click on the link below..lyn
Icknield Street
Maurice It was opposite The Mint. Marked in red on the c1950 map
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Thanks Astoness
Have done a search for threads containing 'Ickneild Street' for any references, anecdotes, maps or photographs. Don't think I've missed anything but having another look.
Thanks again
Robert
Are you sure about the addresses. The 1932 directory lists a tobacconist run by Vernon Froggatt. This is marked in blue on the c1950 map below. No 137 would appear to be part of the factory on the corner of Pope St. No 141 is marked on the map in red to show its position . The earlier smaller scale c1917 map shows buildings down to, but no 137
Are you sure about the addresses. The 1932 directory lists a tobacconist run by Vernon Froggatt. This is marked in blue on the c1950 map below. No 137 would appear to be part of the factory on the corner of Pope St. No 141 is marked on the map in red to show its position . The earlier smaller scale c1917 map shows buildings down to, but no 137
brianthelion
master brummie
I love looking at any old maps and often walk around the Jewellery Quarter trying to match old maps to present day. I live in the block on the corner of Hall Street and Great Hampton Street and would love to see some old maps centred on there.
brian you most likely know of this map site but if not i spend hours on it..you can go all over birmingham with it and if you move the blue dot back and forth the map will fade to show you what is there now...hopefully i have left it more or less where you now live
lyn
lyn
brianthelion
master brummie
Didn’t know. Thanks very much for the link. Hours of fun yay!
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Post number #37 to #42 show the back of the houses. Can anyone help identify which building, from the back, was the Rimini Cafe? I'm interested in the history of this building when it was a pub, the Ivy Tavern. Any help or history on the pub would be appreciated. Many thanks.
richard ive just taken a look at those photos and it was certainly one of those buildings that we entered the rimini cafe cant be certain which one but i will try to find the missing photos which could confirm it for you
lyn
Thanks very much.
I’ve searched and searched for the Icknield Street thread referenced in post #408 but can’t find it and the link brings up an error message. So I shall post this on here. If a mod wishes to move it please do so.
Not a very clear image but I wondered whether this would have been a pub or another business ? I think somewhere in the modern day Streetview is where it would have stood. Viv
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Not a very clear image but I wondered whether this would have been a pub or another business ? I think somewhere in the modern day Streetview is where it would have stood. Viv
Source: British Newspaper Archive
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you are probably not far out viv...depends on which corner it was on and taking into account road changes...think its a new photo to me
