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Wendy
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Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Not an easy one Nigel to locate burial places. There is a CD entitled National burial index but this is not complete. Early burials will be in Church Yards later ones in Cemeteries.There is St Mary's Handsworth burials ceased in 1909 except for family plots which carried on until. Handsworth cemetery opened in 1909. I am not sure about Walsall sorry. Most records are held at Central Library in Birmingham. The cemeteries also have records but charge for searches. I have the indexes for people in two cemeteries. If you want specific look ups you will need to give as much info on the person as possible. Hope this helps.
Not an easy one Nigel to locate burial places. There is a CD entitled National burial index but this is not complete. Early burials will be in Church Yards later ones in Cemeteries.There is St Mary's Handsworth burials ceased in 1909 except for family plots which carried on until. Handsworth cemetery opened in 1909. I am not sure about Walsall sorry. Most records are held at Central Library in Birmingham. The cemeteries also have records but charge for searches. I have the indexes for people in two cemeteries. If you want specific look ups you will need to give as much info on the person as possible. Hope this helps.
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi, Wendy
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply.
Some of the people that I am looking for are: My GGFather, Henry William Hulse (may be listed as William Henry); GFather, Horace Henry Hulse: GAunt, Florence Alberta Hulse and GMother, Laura Fanny Hulse.
All were living in Handsworth and Handsworth Wood when they died.
Regards
Nigel
Hi, Wendy
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply.
Some of the people that I am looking for are: My GGFather, Henry William Hulse (may be listed as William Henry); GFather, Horace Henry Hulse: GAunt, Florence Alberta Hulse and GMother, Laura Fanny Hulse.
All were living in Handsworth and Handsworth Wood when they died.
Regards
Nigel
lindyloo
master brummie
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi Nigelhls,
I've been having a look on Find My Past but I havent come across any burial information as yet.
I was just trying to find some info for Florence and after seeing the 1911 census and cross checking her birth, I think her middle name may have been Albertina and also I would imagine that she may have married, so her married name would be the one needed to search for her burial (was it possibly Gregory ?)
The same would apply to Laura Fanny..was Hulse her maiden or married name ?
Regards Lindyloo
Hi Nigelhls,
I've been having a look on Find My Past but I havent come across any burial information as yet.
I was just trying to find some info for Florence and after seeing the 1911 census and cross checking her birth, I think her middle name may have been Albertina and also I would imagine that she may have married, so her married name would be the one needed to search for her burial (was it possibly Gregory ?)
The same would apply to Laura Fanny..was Hulse her maiden or married name ?
Regards Lindyloo
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Wendy
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Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
As Lindyloo says the women would be buried in their married names. Some approx dates would be helpfull too.
As Lindyloo says the women would be buried in their married names. Some approx dates would be helpfull too.
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Wendy
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Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Some could possibly be cremated then. They are not in Key Hill or Warstone Lane cemeteries.
Some could possibly be cremated then. They are not in Key Hill or Warstone Lane cemeteries.
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi, again, Lindyloo.
This is interesting: I've not been able to find details of Horace and Laura's marriage (my Grandparents).
If, indeed, they were married in Ireland, it would explain why I've not found any details on FreeBMD and other sites.
I assumed that they would have married in Walsall, where most of the family were married.
Could you please tell me where you found the info, then perhaps I could get a copy of the marriage certificate.
Many thanks,
Nigel
Hi, again, Lindyloo.
This is interesting: I've not been able to find details of Horace and Laura's marriage (my Grandparents).
If, indeed, they were married in Ireland, it would explain why I've not found any details on FreeBMD and other sites.
I assumed that they would have married in Walsall, where most of the family were married.
Could you please tell me where you found the info, then perhaps I could get a copy of the marriage certificate.
Many thanks,
Nigel
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Wendy
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Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
As these deaths are relatively recent I would look for obituaries in local papers this would then tell you if they were buried or cremated.
As these deaths are relatively recent I would look for obituaries in local papers this would then tell you if they were buried or cremated.
lindyloo
master brummie
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi Nigelhls,
I found the marriage on the Ancestry web site but it is also to be found at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYX8-ZM3 for Henry
and
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYXZ-6ZS for Laura
The details are
Name ...Horace Henry Hulse
Date ....Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Reg District..Naas
Vol...2
Page ..707
FHL Film No. ...101263
Hi Nigelhls,
I found the marriage on the Ancestry web site but it is also to be found at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYX8-ZM3 for Henry
and
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYXZ-6ZS for Laura
The details are
Name ...Horace Henry Hulse
Date ....Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Reg District..Naas
Vol...2
Page ..707
FHL Film No. ...101263
lindyloo
master brummie
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
You're welcome Nigel.
I think, as Wendy said, you would need to search through old newspapers for the obituaries and as far as I know Birmingham Library would be the best place for doing that, but from your location, doing so would be impossible !! There are newspaper archives online, but I have had a quick look and not come across anything as yet, ..they are in the main for years a lot earlier than the ones you need. Perhaps you have a relative here that could do that for you ?
Regards
Lindyloo
You're welcome Nigel.
I think, as Wendy said, you would need to search through old newspapers for the obituaries and as far as I know Birmingham Library would be the best place for doing that, but from your location, doing so would be impossible !! There are newspaper archives online, but I have had a quick look and not come across anything as yet, ..they are in the main for years a lot earlier than the ones you need. Perhaps you have a relative here that could do that for you ?
Regards
Lindyloo
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Many thanks for all your help and effort.
Yes, the distance is a bit of a problem!!!!
Unfortunately, there are no family members left in England, on my late Father's side, but who knows - I may eventually find out who is where!!
Regards
Nigel
Many thanks for all your help and effort.
Yes, the distance is a bit of a problem!!!!
Unfortunately, there are no family members left in England, on my late Father's side, but who knows - I may eventually find out who is where!!
Regards
Nigel
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Once again, many thanks: if and whenever you find anything, it would be most appreciated.
If finding older burials is easier, Horace's father, William Henry Hulse (GGfather 1860-1934) lived and died in Handsworth Wood. His old house was 36, Handsworth Wood Road. We called it "The Wood".
I have an idea that Florence, Horace and William ( not sure about Laura) may be buried in the same cemetery - possibly a family plot?
I vaguely remember going to a cemetery, but that was a long time ago and unfortunately I don't remember any details!!
Regards
Nigel
Once again, many thanks: if and whenever you find anything, it would be most appreciated.
If finding older burials is easier, Horace's father, William Henry Hulse (GGfather 1860-1934) lived and died in Handsworth Wood. His old house was 36, Handsworth Wood Road. We called it "The Wood".
I have an idea that Florence, Horace and William ( not sure about Laura) may be buried in the same cemetery - possibly a family plot?
I vaguely remember going to a cemetery, but that was a long time ago and unfortunately I don't remember any details!!
Regards
Nigel
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi, Lindyloo
I have checked the old documents and I have found the correct date of death: 9th Jan 1949. Where I got the 1934, heaven knows - sorry!!
There is something else which is puzzling - everywhere that I have found reference to him, he is listed as William Henry, but on his birth certificate he is Henry William ( also on all of the old documents )?
Thanks a lot
Regards
Nigel
Hi, Lindyloo
I have checked the old documents and I have found the correct date of death: 9th Jan 1949. Where I got the 1934, heaven knows - sorry!!
There is something else which is puzzling - everywhere that I have found reference to him, he is listed as William Henry, but on his birth certificate he is Henry William ( also on all of the old documents )?
Thanks a lot
Regards
Nigel
lindyloo
master brummie
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi Nigel,
No worries !! at least now I know Im not going round the twist !!:untroubled:
It seems a lot of folk liked to turn there names around at some point in time, I have found that in other families, mine included, but after going through Henry Williams Birth, Marriage, Death and census records, I have only found him as William Henry twice (1881 and 1901) Obviously you will have access to a lot more paperwork for him than I do so it may just be that sometimes he preferred to use William in some matters.
Hi Nigel,
No worries !! at least now I know Im not going round the twist !!:untroubled:
It seems a lot of folk liked to turn there names around at some point in time, I have found that in other families, mine included, but after going through Henry Williams Birth, Marriage, Death and census records, I have only found him as William Henry twice (1881 and 1901) Obviously you will have access to a lot more paperwork for him than I do so it may just be that sometimes he preferred to use William in some matters.
lindyloo
master brummie
Re: Birmingham Cemeteries
Hi Nigel, I have been to the library today and I had a go at looking for some information for you, but after I had worked out how to use the machine and saw how the papers are laid out on the film, I realised that to make searching easier I would really need the dates that the deaths occurred or failing that at least the quarters.
I started looking at The Birmingham Mail, but the reels hold issues of the papers from different times in the day..ie, the morning edition, mid-day edition and evening edition for each day, so as I'm sure you can imagine, it would have taken me an age to search through them all. If you have any more details about the dates, please post them and I will look again next time I go..sorry I wasnt able to post you any positive results.
Hi Nigel, I have been to the library today and I had a go at looking for some information for you, but after I had worked out how to use the machine and saw how the papers are laid out on the film, I realised that to make searching easier I would really need the dates that the deaths occurred or failing that at least the quarters.
I started looking at The Birmingham Mail, but the reels hold issues of the papers from different times in the day..ie, the morning edition, mid-day edition and evening edition for each day, so as I'm sure you can imagine, it would have taken me an age to search through them all. If you have any more details about the dates, please post them and I will look again next time I go..sorry I wasnt able to post you any positive results.
