History of surnames Morrall and Badger

[John morhal -hurn]

Any knowledge as to how and why the two families were in Staffordshire areas and also any

 

[Alberta]

moved to surnames 29/09

 

[John morhal -hurn]

Hi there I’m not sure how to find any answers to my original queries ..as to the Morralls and Badgers Staffordshire families and how and why there .. I’m told they were on Black patch Gypsy grounds …as they married Prices and Taylor’s and other Gypsy families…but that they also were Gypsies themselves ..
How can I find any further info please .. I had a message saying there was threads waiting fir me ..
But only have seen this ..please help if your able to … Naise tuk

 

[John morhal -hurn]

Hi there foki … my ggreat grandmother Mary Price DOB 1740 married George Badger ( Black Patch Gypsy grounds Owned by Gypsies and stolen by Birmingham Council and Bussines interests — I believe there is a public ground park still named this black patch !
Any information re this subject of the family’s Morrall and Badgers / Price/ Smith/Taylor’s and connected subjects and families please ?

 

[Grea]

It would be interesting to know where you got your information from, documentation or passed down through your family?

 

[John morhal -hurn]

It would be interesting to know where you got your information from, documentation or passed down through your family?

Hi there Grea .. I’ve found through research / ancestry DNA and matches / also through my familhh the connections.. hope that answers your query .. forgive my delay I’m not techi and it’s difficult for me to manoeuvre this site …
Blessings of happiness and good health you and your family..

 

[John morhal -hurn]

Ps any information or help gratefully received Re my earlier requests … Naise tuk

 

[Grea]

If you are on Ancestry you should be able to see my MORROLL, MORRALL, MORRELL tree there, may be some help to you,

 

[John morhal -hurn]

If you are on Ancestry you should be able to see my MORROLL, MORRALL, MORRELL tree there, may be some help to you,

Many thanks my friend …my Facebook is John Morrell Brighton … if you wish send friend request we will be able to find this easier… if okay with yourself … John Morrell or John morrell-Horne it will be under either of them both Brighton .. many thanks John telephone 07741460041
Kind regards

 

[Grea]

You can see mine under Graham Morrell.

 

[JeannetteM]

Hi there foki … my ggreat grandmother Mary Price DOB 1740 married George Badger ( Black Patch Gypsy grounds Owned by Gypsies and stolen by Birmingham Council and Bussines interests — I believe there is a public ground park still named this black patch !
Any information re this subject of the family’s Morrall and Badgers / Price/ Smith/Taylor’s and connected subjects and families please ?

Hi John,
I have only just seen this post. There is public park in Handsworth called Black Patch Park. Not sure if this could be the land that you are asking after. It borders on Winson Green. Jen

 

[John morhal -hurn]

Yes that sounds like the place I’ve researched … most kind of you to contact .. anything else that comes your way regarding the families that lived there .. In particular Morrall and Badger and Price … and families linked to them … I know that the Aston family were very much linked in with the Morralls or different spellings but same family murrels / Moran / morrell / Morley / morello etc … I’m under the impression after searching that the family came from Flemish / France ..William the Conqueror and also after wards as escaping religious persecution … the morrall family originally De Morhal ( dark person of the hall ) as in Moors and hall .. I’ve found an Edgerbert Morhal 1300 plus the year … not knowing how they ended up in Staffordshire..presuming for work and earning a living ..
Badgers also over with William the Conqueror and there is a place in Shropshire named Bagget / Bagsor / Badger still there although much smaller and many ruins .. there from 1180 c … many also ended Up Staffordshire area Blackpatch .. marrying into Price or visa versa .. so am presuming the Badgers and Morrell’s were gypsy stock … any info grateful received ..
John Morhal-Hurn …
Ps I’ve reverted to my early relatives name as I was born on the side of the road and abandoned after birth .. some reason or another .. in Leeds 30 June 1951 … I’ve now after 40 years almost 100 percent traced my fathers blood line and ancestry to Yorkshire and Connacht ( only Connacht mind no where else in Ireland ..then Scotland… to Cochran/ Lewis / Bethanasia Boswell who married Wisdom Smith ( self styled prince of the gypsies ) his son Cain Smith married Sarah Taylor who down the line Mitchell ward / Grey / Doe / Beadle - Biddle / Cooper Stephenson / Chippendale / Hurn/ heron / Hearn / Horne … blessings to all

 

[John morhal -hurn]

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[John morhal -hurn]

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[JeannetteM]

Yes that sounds like the place I’ve researched … most kind of you to contact .. anything else that comes your way regarding the families that lived there .. In particular Morrall and Badger and Price … and families linked to them … I know that the Aston family were very much linked in with the Morralls or different spellings but same family murrels / Moran / morrell / Morley / morello etc … I’m under the impression after searching that the family came from Flemish / France ..William the Conqueror and also after wards as escaping religious persecution … the morrall family originally De Morhal ( dark person of the hall ) as in Moors and hall .. I’ve found an Edgerbert Morhal 1300 plus the year … not knowing how they ended up in Staffordshire..presuming for work and earning a living ..
Badgers also over with William the Conqueror and there is a place in Shropshire named Bagget / Bagsor / Badger still there although much smaller and many ruins .. there from 1180 c … many also ended Up Staffordshire area Blackpatch .. marrying into Price or visa versa .. so am presuming the Badgers and Morrell’s were gypsy stock … any info grateful received ..
John Morhal-Hurn …
Ps I’ve reverted to my early relatives name as I was born on the side of the road and abandoned after birth .. some reason or another .. in Leeds 30 June 1951 … I’ve now after 40 years almost 100 percent traced my fathers blood line and ancestry to Yorkshire and Connacht ( only Connacht mind no where else in Ireland ..then Scotland… to Cochran/ Lewis / Bethanasia Boswell who married Wisdom Smith ( self styled prince of the gypsies ) his son Cain Smith married Sarah Taylor who down the line Mitchell ward / Grey / Doe / Beadle - Biddle / Cooper Stephenson / Chippendale / Hurn/ heron / Hearn / Horne … blessings to all

I lived near to Black Patch Park until I was 11 years old. As kids it was a regular place to play but sorry John I have no knowledge of its history. It is strange though because there was a family called Morrell living close by to us. Mr Morrell was a Prison Officer at Winson Green Prison. It does seem a coincidence. I’m afraid that’s all I know.

 

[John morhal -hurn]

I lived near to Black Patch Park until I was 11 years old. As kids it was a regular place to play but sorry John I have no knowledge of its history. It is strange though because there was a family called Morrell living close by to us. Mr Morrell was a Prison Officer at Winson Green Prison. It does seem a coincidence. I’m afraid that’s all I know.

Most kind .. and thsnkyou for going to the trouble of sending … of course any other info greatly appreciated