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I have just lifted this 'live' from t'internet [see attachment] - isn't 1hr 24mins quick enough? To save a few minutes, which is really what we are talking about, is it worth all that money and cost to the environment? We have a NHS crisis, people dependent on food banks, public services being reduced, a woefully under-funded police force, the list could go on and on and on and on. So, NO, I don't need to get to London a few minutes quicker, I want to see a better place in which to live.
 

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Bob Davis

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If there is not going to be a station at International, how am I going to get to the NEC superfast then? One point that came up in the theme by MWS just was the money for it being spent in this country, but will it be already, the Japanese (Hitachi), the usual European contingent (Siemens etc plus now Talgo) are bidding for it, and the rails - China or India, the concrete Mexico(cemex) or Austria(hansons) and so it will go on. Yes I know some of these companies have manufactories here Talgo, CAV, Hitachi, Wabtec etc but the profits and taxes do not stay here.. Just adding fuel to the fire.

Bob
 

Eric Gibson

master brummie
Your mention of Hansons Bob, just to say, Hansons has a depot in my local town and a huge quarry in the Cotswolds near the Fairford air base.,

I believe they have over three hundred UK manufacturing and distribution sites.
 

Nico

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We always use the Chiltern line when we go to London. I find the trains much more comfortable and I can't travel on the Pendelino because of the way they 'lean'.
I wonder if that's what gave me back ache down to London I have never been so uncomfortable. And so cold. My spine is out anyway so any off balance floors and chairs and I know.
 

Radiorails

master brummie
The idea is not only to get people more speedily to the large cities on the HS2 route it is also designed to free up seats and allow for more trains on the present route. Whatever happens to it I will not see it and would not have used it anyway as I live a long way from the proposed route. HS2 will be a premium priced route I suspect; those less affluent, with a firm grip on moneyas Mrs. Featherstone would have said), or not on business paid tickets will opt for the regular and cheaper trains I guess.
 

Robert Ensor (bob)

master brummie
I read a article last week the cost 300 Million a mile
I can see by the time this gets built the technology will be obsolete
Not trains just the high speed travel
 

Bob Davis

Bob Davis
Your mention of Hansons Bob, just to say, Hansons has a depot in my local town and a huge quarry in the Cotswolds near the Fairford air base.,

I believe they have over three hundred UK manufacturing and distribution sites.
Yes, they were a major British aggregates producer they acquired Associatec Ashpalt amongst others and then were acquired I think it was by Heidelbutg If I am wrong there please correct me, I will look it up later
Bob
 

Bob Davis

Bob Davis
Interestingly enough a lot of major industrials have limited their staffs travelling perks. Unless you are a lawyer or on the Board it is no longer Business plane or First Class train, but economy or budget. They now have a member of staff who specialises in obtaining cheap travel and hotels. My son who is a Director with a major international IT and banking company and flies world wide, can only get business on flights of over 9hours duration and in the UK and Europe often has to use budget airlines which in the case of some UK trips are cheaper than train.
Bob
 

Lady Penelope

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I wonder if that's what gave me back ache down to London I have never been so uncomfortable. And so cold. My spine is out anyway so any off balance floors and chairs and I know.

Nico, I felt as though I had jet-lag and had a sick headache for ages afterwards. Had to sit on the platform for a while before I could go anywhere else. It's a shame as I wanted to ride on 'Penny the Pendelino'.
 

Astoness

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I have just lifted this 'live' from t'internet [see attachment] - isn't 1hr 24mins quick enough? To save a few minutes, which is really what we are talking about, is it worth all that money and cost to the environment? We have a NHS crisis, people dependent on food banks, public services being reduced, a woefully under-funded police force, the list could go on and on and on and on. So, NO, I don't need to get to London a few minutes quicker, I want to see a better place in which to live.

well said...totally agree

lyn
 

Richarddye

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I have just lifted this 'live' from t'internet [see attachment] - isn't 1hr 24mins quick enough? To save a few minutes, which is really what we are talking about, is it worth all that money and cost to the environment? We have a NHS crisis, people dependent on food banks, public services being reduced, a woefully under-funded police force, the list could go on and on and on and on. So, NO, I don't need to get to London a few minutes quicker, I want to see a better place in which to live.
Absolutely right on point!
 
Economy's good on Eurostar.It still goes as fast as 1st Class
We used this when going abroad [trying to be a bit greener] and it is excellent. Our tickets to Marseilles from London were £49.99p - beat that Easyjet! Plus it is city centre to city centre, not an airfield in the middle of nowhere.
But if you really want to travel in style in economy the German trains are tremendous. We took one to Berlin and it was luxurious and high-tec.
The fast track down the spine of Italy is also highly recommended - the views are jaw-dropping.
 
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