I have trouble tracing my direct ancestors family and would be interested in peoples thoughts. last firm census record was 1851
George Hudson - 35 Relationship: Head Occupation Sword Grinder. Lived with this wife Esther 35 and their children, William [15-Sword Grinder], Mary-14,George-11,James-8 plus lodger James Savage @ 35 Communication Row, Birmingham
It looks like George died young in 1860 [lung issues] and Esther same year slightly before [i havent got her death cert as yet].
So by 1861 -the younger children were living with the eldest son William Hudson b. 1835
Relationship: Head. Occupation Sword grinder/polisher. Resided with his wife Priscila and his siblings Mary-23 [Charwoman], George [Sword grinder and polisher], James-19, Esther-10 and Elizabeth -2 @ Latimer Street - Court - house2
By 1871 the situation is even murkier. I cannot trace William or his wife Priscilla [there is a death in a workhouse of a Priscilla Hudson of lung issues where the dates fit and nothing more]. There is a possibilty that his brother George/James is imprisoned and this is research I need to do, as if its the right chap he was in and out of prison all his life. First criminal Ive found in the family IF its him.
But the real query is with my Gt Gt Grandmother Esther who I dont think ever married. She lived with her sister Mary Ann Green and her family [although I can find no record of a marriage to Samuel Green]. And Esther did have a daughter Ann which is confirmed by Anns death certificate [died aged 2 of RIckets].
By 1881 she still lived with the Green Family although this time she has a son living her William, who she lived with until she died. Ive no idea why she never married, family legend is the father was a bloke from Southampton. I dont have much info other than the dynamics dont seem right. Mary Ann I think there is the possibility also had a child pre marriage in the workhouse when I was digging through Baptism records. Mary Ann was some 14 years her sister, I can see her as a mother figure and very close/protective if things turned bad when the parents died.
I think what I am asking is what do other people think about this. It just all feels off and something it not quite right.
William my Gt grandfather went on to marry and have 11 children of his own. So its not all bad and he looked after his mom until she died and 2 of his cousins [Albert Green was one] also lived with them. So things did become settled and all his children were hardworking and good people. my Granddad his son was very quiet and stoic but that generation was.
Im just after thoughts really and theories. Esther seemed such a sad character, Id like to know more.
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George Hudson - 35 Relationship: Head Occupation Sword Grinder. Lived with this wife Esther 35 and their children, William [15-Sword Grinder], Mary-14,George-11,James-8 plus lodger James Savage @ 35 Communication Row, Birmingham
It looks like George died young in 1860 [lung issues] and Esther same year slightly before [i havent got her death cert as yet].
So by 1861 -the younger children were living with the eldest son William Hudson b. 1835
Relationship: Head. Occupation Sword grinder/polisher. Resided with his wife Priscila and his siblings Mary-23 [Charwoman], George [Sword grinder and polisher], James-19, Esther-10 and Elizabeth -2 @ Latimer Street - Court - house2
By 1871 the situation is even murkier. I cannot trace William or his wife Priscilla [there is a death in a workhouse of a Priscilla Hudson of lung issues where the dates fit and nothing more]. There is a possibilty that his brother George/James is imprisoned and this is research I need to do, as if its the right chap he was in and out of prison all his life. First criminal Ive found in the family IF its him.
But the real query is with my Gt Gt Grandmother Esther who I dont think ever married. She lived with her sister Mary Ann Green and her family [although I can find no record of a marriage to Samuel Green]. And Esther did have a daughter Ann which is confirmed by Anns death certificate [died aged 2 of RIckets].
By 1881 she still lived with the Green Family although this time she has a son living her William, who she lived with until she died. Ive no idea why she never married, family legend is the father was a bloke from Southampton. I dont have much info other than the dynamics dont seem right. Mary Ann I think there is the possibility also had a child pre marriage in the workhouse when I was digging through Baptism records. Mary Ann was some 14 years her sister, I can see her as a mother figure and very close/protective if things turned bad when the parents died.
I think what I am asking is what do other people think about this. It just all feels off and something it not quite right.
William my Gt grandfather went on to marry and have 11 children of his own. So its not all bad and he looked after his mom until she died and 2 of his cousins [Albert Green was one] also lived with them. So things did become settled and all his children were hardworking and good people. my Granddad his son was very quiet and stoic but that generation was.
Im just after thoughts really and theories. Esther seemed such a sad character, Id like to know more.
.
