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irene floyd

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Could anyone help me.Im looking for a marriage of Joseph Guest born 1840 not sure if his wife is Margaret ??? I think they had a son Joseph George Guest born 1868 not sure of any other children.
 
is this them irene on the 1871 census with 4 children..3 eldest children all born in netherton..youngest in birmingham so i dont think the marriage took place in birmingham..wife margaret born in pensnett

lyn

Name: Joseph Guest
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Guest
Gender: Male
Where born: Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 278
Piece: 3106
Folio: 81
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Guest 31
Margaret Guest 31
Sarah J Guest 9
Mary Guest 5
Joseph Guest 4
Susannah Guest 2
Source Citation


Class: RG10; Piece: 3106; Folio: 81; Page: 44; GSU roll: 839574

Source Information
 
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There's a birth registered for a Joseph George Guest in Sep qtr 1868, Bham and a possible twin brother, William Henry. Though it appears they both died before 1871. That's the only registration for a Joseph George Guest, other registrations could have omitted a middle name.

The above Joseph George was the son of Joseph Guest b1841 and Mary Eliza Jane Inchley.
 
Astoness said:
is this them irene on the 1871 census with 4 children..3 eldest children all born in netherton..youngest in birmingham so i dont think the marriage took place in birmingham..wife margaret born in pensnett

lyn

Name: Joseph Guest
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Guest
Gender: Male
Where born: Netherton, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 278
Piece: 3106
Folio: 81
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Guest 31
Margaret Guest 31
Sarah J Guest 9
Mary Guest 5
Joseph Guest 4
Susannah Guest 2
Source Citation


Class: RG10; Piece: 3106; Folio: 81; Page: 44; GSU roll: 839574

Source Information
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Thank's Lyn this does seem to be them.Irene x
 
MWS said:
There's a birth registered for a Joseph George Guest in Sep qtr 1868, Bham and a possible twin brother, William Henry. Though it appears they both died before 1871. That's the only registration for a Joseph George Guest, other registrations could have omitted a middle name.

The above Joseph George was the son of Joseph Guest b1841 and Mary Eliza Jane Inchley.
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Thank's for your help.Irene x
 
ok irene if you are happy we have the correct joseph and margaret they stayed in birmingham from 1871 up until the 1911 census by which time they had moved to wednesbury...census says they had 10 children...3 of which died 7 still living

lyn
 
Astoness said:
ok irene if you are happy we have the correct joseph and margaret they stayed in birmingham from 1871 up until the 1911 census by which time they had moved to wednesbury...census says they had 10 children...3 of which died 7 still living

lyn
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Hi Lyn.Can you give me the name of the children that died.Thanks Irene
 
hi irene right now i do not know the names of the children who died..it would take a bit more research on ancestry and i am tad busy at the min but if no one else finds them for you i will take a look when i can

lyn
 
Dear Irene
details for the marriage:
12/09/1861 St Edmond, Dudley
Joseph Guest, son of Joseph Guest
Margaret Payne, daughter of Thomas Payne
regards
Andy Parkes
 
Sarah Jane - Mar qtr 1862, Dudley
Hannah - Mar qtr 1864, Dudley
Mary - Jun qtr 1865, Dudley
Joseph - Mar qtr 1867, Dudley
Susannah - Dec qtr 1869, Bham
George - Mar qtr 1872, Bham
Emma - Mar qtr 1874, Bham
Eliza - Mar qtr 1876, Bham
Alfred - Mar qtr 1878, Bham
Margaret - Jun qtr 1881, Bham
 
Hannah possibly died in 1865, reg Sep qtr Dudley
Emma possibly died in 1875, reg Sep qtr Bham
Alfred possibly died in 1880, reg Jun qtr Bham

Eliza & Margaret possibly married brothers, Herbert & George Parker
 
hi MWS yes i would say those deaths are correct as hannah is not on the 71 and emma and alfred not on the 81

lyn
 
MWS said:
Sarah Jane - Mar qtr 1862, Dudley
Hannah - Mar qtr 1864, Dudley
Mary - Jun qtr 1865, Dudley
Joseph - Mar qtr 1867, Dudley
Susannah - Dec qtr 1869, Bham
George - Mar qtr 1872, Bham
Emma - Mar qtr 1874, Bham
Eliza - Mar qtr 1876, Bham
Alfred - Mar qtr 1878, Bham
Margaret - Jun qtr 1881, Bham
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Thank you so much x
 
Sarah Jane married William Hughes (b1859 Walsall), reg Dec qtr 1886 Bham

Joseph possibly married Lydia Jacobs, reg Dec qtr 1887 Bham (there's a record on Ancestry)
 
MWS said:
Sarah Jane married William Hughes (b1859 Walsall), reg Dec qtr 1886 Bham

Joseph possibly married Lydia Jacobs, reg Dec qtr 1887 Bham (there's a record on Ancestry)
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Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it.Could you tell me if Eliza and Herbert Parker had any children also Margaret and George Parker.
 
Herbert & Eliza had at least 2 daughters - Edith Lilian, reg Jun 1899 Aston & Ethel May, reg Dec 1904 Aston
 
There are two other Parker/Guest children registered in Aston - Gertrude Helen, Mar 1914 & Betty E, Dec 1917.

I suspect they are the daughters of Herbert & Eliza because I think that George & Margaret emigrated to Canada.

There is a Margaret Edith Parker registered in Solihull, Mar 1906 with mmn Guest. However I can find no trace of her or George & Margaret in the 1911 census.

However there is this - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27X8-886

George's age is wrong but it appears he did have a brother, Arthur, of the right age.
 
On the 1921 Canada census George's age is correct and they're living in Hamilton, Ontario.

If this is the right George & Margaret then they had at least two more daughters - Lilian b1912 & Ivy b1917

George's occupation in 1921 is coppersmith and on the 1901 census there is a George Parker living in Tarry Road (Aston district) who is also a coppersmith
 
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MWS said:
On the 1921 Canada census George's age is correct and they're living in Hamilton, Ontario.

If this is the right George & Margaret then they had at least two more daughters - Lilian b1912 & Ivy b1917

George's occupation in 1921 is coppersmith and on the 1901 census there is a George Parker living in Tarry Road (Aston district) who is also a coppersmith
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Thank you for being so helpful.
 
William Floyd married Jane Midlam on 7 Oct 1833 in Edgbaston possibly St Bartholomew. Unfortunately father's names are not listed prior to 1840ish. Witnesses might be helpful but I can't see them.

There is a baptism for a William Floyd on 8 Nov 1813 at St Martin's, the son of John & Sarah but can't be sure if he's the right one.

Jane was possibly born in Ireland, so that makes things difficult.
 
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MWS said:
William Floyd married Jane Midlam on 7 Oct 1833 in Edgbaston possibly St Bartholomew. Unfortunately father's names are not listed prior to 1840ish. Witnesses might be helpful but I can't see them.

There is a baptism for a William Floyd on 8 Nov 1813 at St Martin's, the son of John & Sarah but can't be sure if he's the right one.

Jane was possibly born in Ireland, so that makes things difficult.
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Thank you.
bewdley said:
They did marry at St Bartholomew here's a print screen of the entry

View attachment 113320
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Thank You So Much
 
irene keep an eye on ancestry as they may do a free weekends research over easter

lyn
 
I see the witnesses are Sarah & John Floyd, so it doesn't rule out the William Floyd baptised 8 Nov 1813 being the right one.
 
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