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harris and sheldons shop fitters stafford street

the babby

proper brummie kid
I worked at Harris and Sheldons Stafford Street by the Central Fire Station in the stationery dept in 1959 to 1963
my boss was Mr Bayley,and I worked with a Mrs Crump,Pamela Crisp,Sandra Barlow Christine can't remember her surname,and Michael Male, we did all the printing and made boxes and we were responsible for printing all the invoice pads and order form pads etc.it was a wonderful job for a young girl just leaving school, and I must say I have never enjoyed a job so much, we moved to Aldridge Road Perry Barr in the early sixties,I would be interested to hear from anyone who remembers Harris and Sheldons:):):)
 
Babby, a couple of things. I remember Harris and Sheldon's very well. I went to work there as a temp. secretary in the early l970's when I was living in England. This was at Perry Barr if I remember correctly. Also, I went to school at Fentham Girls Sec. School with a girl called Pamela Crisp. She lived
on Brookvale Road on the corner of Wyrley Road in Witton. I wonder if it was the same person that you worked with at Harris & Sheldon. Pam was a
very friendly and outgoing girl as I remember.
 
My husband David worked for Harris and Sheldon back in the late 60's as a painter and decorator. We met when he was working in East Birmingham Hospital, and I was a Student Nurse. He was probably in his late teens at that time. He loved his job there, but was eventually made redundant .
Lynda
 
Harris and Sheldon

Many thanks for the replies,the letter was very interesting, I can't see employers writing letters to their staff, nowadays mind you we don't write many letters now it's all done on "internet" wonderful letter headings.:):):)

Jennyann,yes pamela crisp is the same one I worked with her for nearly five years ,she lives on castle vale with her husband and family but I have't spoken to her for years,but the longer I live the more I realize what a small world it is !!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Lynda I had left H&S by the time your husband worked there but glad it was still a good place to work:redface::redface::redface:
 
Babby, thanks for the info on Pamela Crisp. Every time when I am visiting
Brum and the bus stops outside where she used to live on Brookvale Rd.
I would wonder whatever had happened to her. I don't think she could have
heard about the Fentham Reunion we held in Sutton in April 2004...374 Fentham ex school girls came to it and I came over to England for five weeks.
Glad to hear Pam is doing well. Perhaps you should give her a call and get together. Yes, it is a very small world indeed...at the time of helping
my Fentham schoolfriend Margaret put together this reunion, I found that
there are three other Fentham girls living in the Vancouver area. We had a mini-reunion after I got back to Vancouver in 2004. Two of them are close to my age and the other one a bit younger. I had no idea these women were in this area.
 
Harris & Sheldons

Hi Babs,
Harris & Sheldons, during theWW 2 both my father & mother worked there and of course they were busy making aircraft parts,my mother was a riveter on Halifax bomb doors,my father worked on Barracuda parts,and while he was there,he went to a local factory to show them how to form a part for a Spitfire,they were so pleased,that they had a whip round for him. later he got into a fight with his foreman and got the sack.
I made a lot of friends from H & S as we all went to day college at B'ham Central Tech Suffolk St. for Carpentry & Joinery this was in the late fourty's
 
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:angel: Just catching up on past threads & posts and found this one.
My sister worked at H&S for a while as a typist
Pom:angel:
 
Harris and Sheldon.

:D My old neighbour Morris Cox worked there for years and So did his son Robert Who I have got back in touch with after 50 years through friends reunited. :D Jean. Morris is the one with the moustache. :D
 
This is the only photo of this part of Stafford Street I 've ever seen opposite Harris and Sheldon,Gilmans store extreme right, and our15-07-15 071.JPG sign shop arrowed.
Photo from BIRMINGHAM, THEN AND NOW by MARK NORTON.
 
Hi All,
I served my apprenticeship with Harris and Sheldon Shopfitters Ltd, Perry Barr from when I left school in 1964 until they made us all redundant some years later. I could not have wished for a better apprenticeship as not only did I gain work experience in the many shop-floor departments eg. Joiners shop, veneer shop, machine shop, wood store, trim shop but was privileged to gain experience in the cost-office and the estimating department too. I still have my letter somewhere in my loft telling me that I had been offered an apprenticeship and to report to a shop foreman Mr Jack Clements and to bring with me a tea-mug and a clean White apron. My first job after being allocated a bench was to take the sharp corners of a trolley load of Teak edgings for some counters destined for Boots the chemist stores nationwide. It took me many days as collecting the teas for the other bench joiners and sweeping up etc. had to be worked in too. I was so bored after a couple of days and was so pleased when I thought that I had eventually finished my first task. Oh how naive I was, for on telling my foreman that I had finished I was led by my foreman to one of the main gangways where there was truck after truck after truck of the same edgings and oh how my heart dropped. Later i was told that I was just the man for a special job and told to report to the chief designer who was waiting in the loading bay of the factory. When I got there he was standing in front of an Apple tree that had been set up and I was told to start stripping off all of the bark. The following day I had worked logically starting with the trunk and progressed to some smaller branches which again had been a very tedious job. Imagine my despair then when the designer came back and drew chalk marks around the more substantial branches ready to be cut and rendering the tedious work invalid. That tree was painted White and was placed in the entrance of the then China Gardens Restaurant in the city centre. I was told that it was still there some years later when the Citizens Advice Bureau had taken the unit over. As I progressed I remember being led into the estimating department by the senior chief-estimator Bob Webb who wore a handlebar moustache and soared above me to the dizzy heights of 6-2 or more. My first task was to work through all of the drawings and take off a complete list of materials in order for him to submit a tender for fitting out The Corinthia Palace Hotel, San Anton, Malta and not only daunting for me but again tedious too. When this was complete I handed my lists to him and he duly completed and submitted the estimate. It was only a couple of weeks later when he came rushing into the office with a worried look on his face saying that the estimate had been accepted and he hoped that I had not missed anything out. Obviously to give an inexperienced youngster the job it was obvious that he never expected to win the job, lol. My credit rating jumped up a mile after he had checked my list and praised me for a job well done. Lots of memories, and there I learned how a large factory had so many wide and varied characters making up the close knit community and very sad indeed when I saw some of the older men, who had started off as apprentices at Stafford Street before the factory moved to the Perry Barr purpose-built factory, in tears after we had been told we were all to be made redundant. Another flashback before I end was a mental picture of bench joiner Jack Sermon who turned up every morning in a bowler hat and suit before changing into overalls for a days work and then changing again to travel home at the end of the day looking like a bank manager lol. That apprenticeship set me up for life and I have had a very rewarding innings because of it. So sad that the workforce have never bothered to keep in touch although a fellow apprentice and close friend died last year and we had socialised ever since our days at Harris and Sheldons. So many happy memories !
 
Well Peejaytee a very enjoyable account of life at Harris and Sheldons, thank you. I was an apprentice too, in the construction industry. I also recall a couple of characters who dressed like bank managers then changed at work too.

This sense of identity is very interesting
 
A couple of images of Harris and Sheldons premises on Stafford Street. I have an idea that the doorway image might be one of Mikejee's photo's though I don't understand why it is filed separate to the rest of photos that he was kind enough to share with me.

City Stafford Street.JPGE-mail Stafford St  2.jpg
 
Good to see those photos Phil, especially the street view. I know of the photo so I was pleased to see it included here.
 
Hi All,
I served my apprenticeship with Harris and Sheldon Shopfitters Ltd, Perry Barr from when I left school in 1964 until they made us all redundant some years later. I could not have wished for a better apprenticeship as not only did I gain work experience in the many shop-floor departments eg. Joiners shop, veneer shop, machine shop, wood store, trim shop but was privileged to gain experience in the cost-office and the estimating department too. I still have my letter somewhere in my loft telling me that I had been offered an apprenticeship and to report to a shop foreman Mr Jack Clements and to bring with me a tea-mug and a clean White apron. My first job after being allocated a bench was to take the sharp corners of a trolley load of Teak edgings for some counters destined for Boots the chemist stores nationwide. It took me many days as collecting the teas for the other bench joiners and sweeping up etc. had to be worked in too. I was so bored after a couple of days and was so pleased when I thought that I had eventually finished my first task. Oh how naive I was, for on telling my foreman that I had finished I was led by my foreman to one of the main gangways where there was truck after truck after truck of the same edgings and oh how my heart dropped. Later i was told that I was just the man for a special job and told to report to the chief designer who was waiting in the loading bay of the factory. When I got there he was standing in front of an Apple tree that had been set up and I was told to start stripping off all of the bark. The following day I had worked logically starting with the trunk and progressed to some smaller branches which again had been a very tedious job. Imagine my despair then when the designer came back and drew chalk marks around the more substantial branches ready to be cut and rendering the tedious work invalid. That tree was painted White and was placed in the entrance of the then China Gardens Restaurant in the city centre. I was told that it was still there some years later when the Citizens Advice Bureau had taken the unit over. As I progressed I remember being led into the estimating department by the senior chief-estimator Bob Webb who wore a handlebar moustache and soared above me to the dizzy heights of 6-2 or more. My first task was to work through all of the drawings and take off a complete list of materials in order for him to submit a tender for fitting out The Corinthia Palace Hotel, San Anton, Malta and not only daunting for me but again tedious too. When this was complete I handed my lists to him and he duly completed and submitted the estimate. It was only a couple of weeks later when he came rushing into the office with a worried look on his face saying that the estimate had been accepted and he hoped that I had not missed anything out. Obviously to give an inexperienced youngster the job it was obvious that he never expected to win the job, lol. My credit rating jumped up a mile after he had checked my list and praised me for a job well done. Lots of memories, and there I learned how a large factory had so many wide and varied characters making up the close knit community and very sad indeed when I saw some of the older men, who had started off as apprentices at Stafford Street before the factory moved to the Perry Barr purpose-built factory, in tears after we had been told we were all to be made redundant. Another flashback before I end was a mental picture of bench joiner Jack Sermon who turned up every morning in a bowler hat and suit before changing into overalls for a days work and then changing again to travel home at the end of the day looking like a bank manager lol. That apprenticeship set me up for life and I have had a very rewarding innings because of it. So sad that the workforce have never bothered to keep in touch although a fellow apprentice and close friend died last year and we had socialised ever since our days at Harris and Sheldons. So many happy memories !
My first job in 1976 was as a designer at Harris & Sheldon in Willenhall. The company closed in January 1981, I think, but I did recognise the estimator`s name, Bob Webb, and thought you might like a photo of him, taken in the estimating department in late 1980, when we had all been told we were being made redundant. You`re right, he was a tall man with a very imposing `tache ( that`s him on the left ). Haven`t kept in touch with anyone from those days, but that was 40 years ago, many of them were approaching retirement age or well into middle-age, and I was probably one of the youngest in the place. Ironically, I`m now retired from running my own design business, so I would imagine many of them have gone to great shopfitters in the sky. Redundancy was the best thing that could have happened to me, but I would imagine that for many of them it was a disaster. I have a few other photos if you`re interested.
 

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I worked at Harris and Sheldons Stafford Street by the Central Fire Station in the stationery dept in 1959 to 1963
my boss was Mr Bayley,and I worked with a Mrs Crump,Pamela Crisp,Sandra Barlow Christine can't remember her surname,and Michael Male, we did all the printing and made boxes and we were responsible for printing all the invoice pads and order form pads etc.it was a wonderful job for a young girl just leaving school, and I must say I have never enjoyed a job so much, we moved to Aldridge Road Perry Barr in the early sixties,I would be interested to hear from anyone who remembers Harris and Sheldons:):):)
Hi Babbs, my brother Kev Elliott worked at H&S Aldridge Road Perry Barr late 50s to early 60s as shopfitter cabinet maker where he met his future wife Jacqueline Hancox who worked in wages office I think, it would be nice to see any existing photos of the building and workers from that time
 
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