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Hanley eliebeth

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Astonian

gone but not forgotten
I AM TRYING TO TRACK DOWN A LADY BY THE NAME OF
ELISEBETH HANLEY BORN AROUND ALMA ST ASTON WHOM WAS MY GRAND MOTHER
ALSO POSSIBLE GERRARD ST ASTON
AROUND THE LATE 1800,S TO EARLY 1900,S AND MARRIED A JENNING ,
IF ANY BODY COULD THROW ANY LIGHT IN THIS DIRECTOIN I WOULD REALLY APPRECIAT IT
MANY THANKS TO ALL AND WISH YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR 2007
ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Hello mate.  There is this Hanley family on the 1901 census in Brum, they are living at 20 Blucher Street.    The father was born in Galway, Ireland, all the rest were born in Brum.

Catherine Hanley 60 
Edith Hanley 20 
James Hanley 40 
Richard Hanley 62 
William Hanley 38 

barrie.
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Found these as well, are they of interest?

Elizabeth Hanley abt 1878 Jackfield, Shropshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire

Elizabeth Hanley abt 1861 B'ham, Warwickshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire


barrie
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

HI BARRIE ,
THESE COULD BE THE VERY ONES I NEED TO LOOK AT
BECAUSE OF THE DATES ,
I DON,T KNOW WETHER YOU HAVE JUST RECIEVED A THRED FROM ME ,
BUT , IDID MENTION GERRARD ST ASTON ,
BUT I DON,T THINK SHE CAME FROM B,HAM , BUT NEVER OR LESS ,
I HAVE GOT TO SAY WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT SHE DID,NT SPEAK IN A BRUMMIE ACCENT
BUT ALSO , I REMEMEMBER GOING WITH MY AUNT MAURD SOMWHERE WHEN I WAS A CHILD .
ON A BUS ROUTE , AND IT WAS GOING DOWN TOWARDS HOCKLEY BROOK . AND IT WAS ON GERRARD
STREET , THERE WAS A BIG HOUSE ON GERRARD ST , AND THERE WAS A BUS STOP OUTSIDE
THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE ,
I WAS,NT A KNEE HIGH , BUT I REMEMBER IT WELL AND NEVER FORGOT IT ,
SHE TURNED TO ME AND SAID ALAN , THATS WHERE YOUR GRAND DAD MADE A FORMULA
FOR LEMONADE , IN THE BACK GARDEN IN THE SHED , AND HE SOLD A FORMULA TO MR
R . WHITES . LEMONADE POPS ;
AND WHEN THE BUS PULLED AWAY ALITTLIE FURTHER ALONG THE ROAD
SHE SAID THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR GRANDADS COFFEE SHOPS , BUT HE HAS SOLD IT TO HIS BROTHER
WHICH WAS HENRY CHARLES JELF ,
BUT I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTON ALL MY LIFE , AND SHE SAID HE AND HIS BROTHERS
HAVE GOT THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE
BUT THIS ELISBETH HANLEY WAS MY GRAND MOTHER AND SHE HAD APPARENTLY
HAD BEENMARRIED BEFORE , MY AUNT WAS MAUD SMART WHOM WAS A DAUGHTER
TO ELISEBETH HANLEY , ELISEBETH HAD A HALF SISTER NAMED LEAHA
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THIS BARRIE IF POSSIBLE ;
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Astonian, was Hanley Elizabeths married name, and if so what was her name before she married. Difficult to do a search without a little more information. :)
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

HAPPY NEW YEAR DI ,
I WAS TOLD HER NAME WAS HANLEY AND THEN SHE WAS A JENNING , BEFORE
BECOMING A STEVENS , , AND SHE HAD A HAllf sister named leaha , whom lived on the lichfield rd aston , bham 6
and a sister named ada whom lived in pugh rd , what her surname was i don,t know
when she became a stevens , she had a couple of daughters ,
named maurd , florrence , lily a son named joseph ,and william ,
and i don,t know the name of her husband whom was my so called grandad
Oh by the way there was a son , called albert ;
whom i was told he was missing in action ,
in which war i dont know
thank you di .
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Hi Alan. Can we try and get all our ducks in a row on this one mate. If we take the 1901 census as a starting point, what would your Grandmothers name have been then? At the moment we have 3 surnames for Elizabeth. If you can narrow it down a bit, we can start looking for marriages. Will wait until I hear from you, and will then start looking.

barrie.
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Here they are Astonian, on the 1901 Census. Elizabeth was born Jennings, her mother was  married for a second time to John Handley. This is as far as you can go on a census, so now you have to find the birth and marriage certificates to get you further forward. John Handley was born in Worsley Staffs,  the others were born Birmingham , apart from Leah who was born in aston Manor.

Name: Lizzie Jennings
Age: 10 
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Stepdaughter 
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female 
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
 
Civil parish: Aston Manor 
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston Brook St Mary 
County/Island: Warwickshire 
Country: England 
 
Street address: 30 Parliament Street

Occupation:
 
Registration district: Aston 
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor 

Household Members: Name Age
Albert Archer 52 Boarder, Labourer
Elizabeth Handley 39 Wife
John Handley 31 Head.  Glass Cutter
Leah Handley 2 Dau
Ada Jennings 12 Step Dau
John Jennings 76  Boarder, Mineral Water Bottler
Joseph Jennings 16  Step Son. Hatters shop Assistant
Lizzie Jennings 10  Step Dau
 
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HI DI , MANY THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME ON THIS CASE
I KNOW THIS IS THE ONE, CO,S I RECIEVED A LETTER FROM A LONG LOST COUSIN , TELLING ME MY
GRAND MOTHERS NAME AND THAT HER MOTHER HAD BEEN MARRIED TWICE ,
AND ABOUT THE STEP DAUGHTERS AND HALF SISTERS OF ADA ,AND LEAHA , BUT SHE SAID SHE DID,NT
KNOW THERE SURNAMES , SO WHAT YOU HAVE STATED IS CORRECT, THANKS A MILLION DI ,
YOU HAVE MADE AN OLD MAN VERY HAPPY AND GIVEN ME THE BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT
I COULD EVER HAD ,
DI , I HAVE GOT TO TELL YOU , THIS CHRISTMAS HAS BEEN BRILLIENT ,
BECAUSE THIS COUSIN TRACKED ME DOWN , AFTER 30 YEARS WITH ABIT OF INFO;;
REGARDING A COUPLE OF NAMES , TO GO ON AND YOU HAVE TRACED THEM FOR ME ,
ONCE AGAIN DI I THANK YOU ;
THE VERY BEST OF WISHES FOR 2007 , ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
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A bit more info Alan.
1891 30 Parliament Street,Aston.
Joseph Jenning age 31 Vanman
Eliza age 32
Joseph age 6
Ada age 2
Eliza age 1 month
John Jennings father age 66 Soda water manufacturer
Alexander Jennings brother age 20.

1881 census showing you are descended from a Yorkshireman.
Dwelling: 19 Moreton St
Census Place: Birmingham, Warwick, England

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John JENNINGS W 55 M Leeds, York, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Soda Water Bottler
Joseph JENNINGS U 21 M Birmm
Rel: Son
Occ: Soda Water Bottler
Rosena JENNINGS U 16 F Birmm
Rel: Daur
Occ: Press Worker
Alec JENNINGS 10 M Birmm
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary A. HICKMAN M 23 F Birmm
Rel: Daur
Occ: House Keeper (Dom)
William HICKMAN M 28 M Birmm
Rel: Son In Law
Occ: Iron Founder
Arthur HICKMAN 13 m M Birmm
Rel: G Son
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Astonian, I remember the Jennings family in Parliament Street when I was growing up, old man Jennings had a basket carriage and handcart business, hiring them out. He also charged accumulator batteries. Time period 40s, 50s and 60s. I am pretty sure there have been other postings on the site regarding these Jennings, and John Houghton lived in Parliament Street and has posted his memories too.
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

HI SYLV , MANY THANKS FOR YOUR THREAD IV,E JUST RECENTLY BEEN INFORMED THAT THEY LIVED AT 30 PARLIMENT ST , I SEEM TO RECALL MY GRAND FATHER ERNEST JELF ,MANY YEARS AGO , IN HIS OLD AGE ,WHEN HE CAME BACK TO MY MOTHER IN THE SIXTIES , WHEBN HE WAS DOWM AND OUT , AND LIVING IN A BROKEN DOWN SHED AND HALF DEAD ,THROUGH ILL HEALTH
AT THE AGE OF 70 YEARS OLD
HE NEVER CAME TO SEE US SINCE 1953 ON LICHFIELD RD [ 5/92 ] WHENMY NAN HER MOTHER DIED
WAS THE LAST TIME HE SEEN HER , CO,S HE HAD OLD FANNY ROBINSON AROUND HIM TO SUBTIUTE A WIFE AND DAUGHTER , HE CAME BACK PLEADING FOR HELP WHEN SHE LEFT HIM ,
HE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THE BUSSINESS LEFT , CALLED IT
JELF,S CROCERY HIRE AT ASTON CROSS HE KEPT THE WARE HOUSING FULL OF STOCK
AND TRYING TO CLING WHAT HAD BEEN ,
BUT GET BACK TO THE JENNING , I DID HEAR WHAT HE SAID , DO YOU REMEMBER OLD MAN JENNING ,
AND SHE SAID YES DAD ,
WHAT I HAVE LEART FROM THIS FORUM THEY WAS OR THE FATHER WAS OF IRISH BLOOD
AND THAT MY OWN FATHER WAS CONNECTED TO THIS FAMILY ;;
IE ; HIS MOM HAD MARRIED ONE OF THE JENNING ,
SO NOW I KNOWWHY HE RESENTED IRISH PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE HATED MY FATHER ,
BECAUSE HE HIS COMING FROM THAT BACK GROUND IE BEING HIS MOTHER
I OVER HEARD HIM SAY ONE SUNDAY LUNCH TIME TO HER ,
DO YOU KNOW JOYCE , I HAD TWO MICKS IN MY SHOP AT THE CROSS TODAY
AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE 5 DARKIES THAN THEN MICKS
I WAS ONLY YOUNG WHEN I HEARD HIM SAY THAT , AND NOW THANKS TO THE FORUM
I UNDERSTAND AS TO WHY ,
BECAUSE HIS ONE AND ONLY CHILD , AND DAUGHTER GOT PREGNANT AT AN E4ARLY AGE
THEY LOCKED HER IN HER ROOM AND TRYED IS INFLUENCEING POSTION
BY DRAGGING HIM TO COURT TO GET A COURT ORDER AGAIST HIM TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM HIM ,
BUT IT DIDNT WORK SHE RAN OFF AND GOT MARRIED , WELL AS FAR AS I KNOW ,
I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS , CO,S TOPDAY I HAVE LEART FROM CROMWELLS INFO;; HE HAD AN HALF BROTHER
NAMED JOSEPH , AND WE WERE NEVER TOLD THIS WHEN WE WAS YOUNG ,
WELL SLV , I BET TER GET OF THE LINE FOR NOW
THANKS FOR THAT INFO;; I,VE ALREADY RANG MY YOUNG BROTHERPETE, AND TOLD HIM THAT
UNCLE JOE WAS HALF BROTHER TO MY DAD
BEST WISHES TO YOU FOR 2007 ASTONIASN ,;;;;
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Astonian, I have a vague recollection that old Mr.Jennings had a daughter or daughter-in-law come to live with him, her name may have been Lily. Perhaps John Houghton can tell you a bit more as I think she had a son about his age, and they played together.
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

THANKS SYLV,;
THANKS FOR THAT VALUABLE INFORMATION , I
I GREATLY RESPECT THAT WAS MY GRAND MOTHER , AND I M JUST WONDERING WHERE MY FATHER
CAME INTO IT , THE SON , COULD HAVE BEEN THE HALF BROTHER , JOSSEPH, I HAVE BEEN TOLD
BY MY LONG LOST COUSIN WHOM AS JUST TRACK ME DOWN A FEW DAYS AGO ;
SAID LI ;WAS AN HANLEY , THEN A JENNING ,
SO WHERE DOES MY FATHER COME FROM -------THATYS THE 64 ,DOLLAR QUESTION NOW SYVI.
WE ARE BOTH SHOCKED TODAY ABOUT THIS LADY
OUR GRAND MOTHER , ANY SYLV;; THANKS AGAIN ,
AND I HOPE JOHN , CAN SHRED SOME LIGHT ON THIS MATTER
SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN SOON ,, ASTONIAN ;;;
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

Lily Jennings the person I know was born a Jennings she married Frank Adams the Jennings I knew were from Lower Tower street of Summer lane there are still living relatives of the Jennings family they came from Shropshire early 1800's their business was transport manual and motorised now the Jennings you mention lived at number 30 Parliament street and the Jennings I knew lived at 34 a this used to be a coal yard and then it became a wheelwrights and cart hire yard also a charging shed for accumulators.
I don't know of a connection between the two but you never know,
 
Re: ELIEBETH HANLEY

HI ALBERTA ,
MANY THANKS FOR THE INFO;; I HOPE YOU DON,T MIND ME
ASKING , BUT HOW ON EARTH DOES ONE FIND A MARRIGE, CERTIFICATE ,
WOULD MY FATHERS BIRTH CERTIFICATE TELL ME ANY THINK
COULD I ASKED YOU IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHERE WOULD MY FATHER WAS BORN ,
I THINK IT WAS AROUND THE DEC EMBER 1922 AND HIS NAME WAS WILLIAM ERNEST STEVENS ,
THE FORUM HAVE DONE ALOT FOR ME ,AND I AM VERY GRATEFUL ,
I DID NOT KNOW MY FATHERS BACK GROUND WHEN WE WAS KIDS
WE WAS NEVER TOLD ANYTHINK ABOUT HIM , AND WE HARDLEY SEEN HIM
AND THANKS AGAIN TO THE FORUM I HAQVE LEART ABOUT THE NAME OF MY GRAND MOTHER
WHOM I NEVER REALLY NEW ,
I INFORMED MY YOUNGER BROTHER TODAY OF THE INFO;; RECIEVED ,
ABOUT OUR GRAND MOTHER AND HER HALF RELATED FAMILY , WE WERE
SHOCKED ABOUT THIS ,
WE KNOW ABOUT OUR MOTHERS FAMILY THE JELF,S , BUT WE KNOW NOTHINK ABOUT HIM ,
MANY THANKS ALBERTA , SEASONS GREETING , FOR 2007 , ASTONIAN ,;;;
 
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