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Grand Hotel Colmore Row

Dave M

Pheasey Born Bumper
The scaffold structure is supported on built-up cantilevered beams which go through the window openings of the second floor...from Dave's photo's. The second floor windows have been removed and I can't see anything to stop the elements from getting inside...or pigeons for that matter. Maybe there is a barrier inside that can not be seen though. Anyway it seems possible that the second floor is in poor shape from the procedure at this time. There does not seem to be any work in progress from the photo's. I wonder if trucks are coming and going with materials. Is the whole thing in a state of limbo? Blow-up of Dave's photo below:

Rupert found this one and cropped :)
 

dek carr

gone but not forgotten
Those cross beams would I think go straight through the building and out the windows on the other side and the beams coming out on Church st would be bolted on this would allow a balance to take the weight of the scaffolding.As you can imagine there would be many tons. Dek
 

Vivienne14

Super Moderator
Staff member
Why is there scaffolding around it? There's probably a blindingly obvious answer to this but afraid I can't work it out. :headhit: Did work start on it? Or is it there for some other reason? Viv.
 

Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
Viv

The scaffolding is there to protect the public from falling masonry, Horton Estates say the stone facade is crumbling and needs replacing. Obviously the top of the building takes the main force of the weather so this is the part that goes first. If they were that worried about the building they would have used a scaffold plan that would have afforded some protection to the building also.

Phil
 

Rupert

master brummie
Well, if there is no work in progress, I suppose the structure supports the wrap. Maybe it is also for the protection of pedestrians from falling gargoils or something.
 

BilboC

master brummie
The cynic in me has been saying for years that they have hung all those tons of scaffold on the building to help it collapse, then the developers can get in there and get their own way and ruin another piece of our wonderful buildings heritage.
Our City, allegedly, is short of hotels as the planning department have approved a plan to build a new 20 storey hotel on the Snow Hill Queensway site and allowed the developers to mothball the site for three years as they are short of finance.
If , as I believe above, they do eventually start seeing the cracks appear in the 'Grand' does any one know whether rebuilding 'as is' can be forced on them under the grade listing. If not why not?
I'm not sure of the facts, but heard three buildings in a row of suspicious fires on Hagley Road some years ago led to compulsory purchase of the properties by the council, there has recently been another one next door but one! Surely this could be along the same lines and maybe force the hand of the owners/developers to get something done, let's get tough with the people ruining our City!
 

Dave M

Pheasey Born Bumper

Good news :) had a walk around the rear of the Grand today, workmen on site, spoke to a few, they said the Grand having a complete refurb :), might take a few years, and to open as

The Grand Hotel :)
 

Vivienne14

Super Moderator
Staff member
Well that's great news Dave. :) it would be so good to see the place restored to what it was meant to be. Viv.
 

Vivienne14

Super Moderator
Staff member
The back certainly couldn't hold a candle to the front of the building! Dave I wonder if your photo #3 could once have been the entrance to the oldest press club in the world; the Birmingham Press Club. Or would they have used the front entrance? Viv
 

jennyann

master brummie
Staff member
Hi Viv: Found this article on the history of the Birmingham Press Club, which from it's inception faced countless problems, mainly financial by the looks of it.The BPC had several addresses around the town but was at one of the addresses for 26 years. At the end of the article it's location in the basement of the Grand Hotel on Colmore Row is mentioned. Women were not admitted at all until 1972 with HRH Princess Alexandra being the first member. Looks as though it has found yet another home on Church Street!https://www.birmingham-press-club.co.uk/history/
 

Vivienne14

Super Moderator
Staff member
Thanks for the link Jennyann. Love their original name "The Junior Pickwick Club" Their meetings seem to have been more social than business. They recorded at one meeting " Everything so jolly that no minutes were taken" !! :D Viv.
 
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Phil

Gone, but not forgotten.
Another thread that I have replaced images, just awaiting a few from others sources, by the way the moderators can feel free to remove these comments that I am leaving after they have had the desired effect.

Phil
 
W

Wendy

Guest

It looks like things are moving forward at last for the Grand Hotel's restoration.

Members of the Casework Committee of The Victorian Society have had a number of meetings with Hortons' Estate (the owner of The Grand Hotel) concerning the restoration and re-opening of hotel. It promises to be a fantastic and exciting conservation project.


Hortons feel that their plans are now well enough advanced to hold a public exhibition of them and I attach a copy of the letter received from Hortons, advising the location and timing of the exhibition.

Hortons hope that members of The Victorian Society will be able to visit the event. To assist them in doing so, the exhibition will remain open, to members of the Victorian Society only, until 7pm on 11[SUP]th[/SUP] January, so that they can attend on their way to the Group's Casework Showcase on that evening.

Depending upon the feedback received, they hope to be in a position to submit a Planning Application in the near future.

I will be presenting a session at the Casework Showcase on the background and issues facing the restoration project. Non-members are welcome to attend. Cost is £5.00 at the Council House, Victoria Square.

Victorian Society Casework Showcase
Wednesday 11th January, 7.30 pm
The Council House, Victoria Square

Presentations by members of the Casework Committee on recent cases
Cost £5



Thanks.

Stephen Hartland
Chairman
The Victorian Society
Birmingham & West Midlands Group
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
wend this is great news..just the sort we want to hear...thanks for the update:encouragement:

lyn
 
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