Hadn’t noticed the parcel sign in the gable John. Think it reads: “Parcel delivery carts of every description”
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Golden Lion Cannon Hill
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JudiM
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At least it's still standing! I keep expecting to hear it's fallen down or been set alight.Got some new photos as lockdown restrictions were eased so we went to Cannon Hill Park this morning.
Fingers crossed for its success. Viv.
I know this is an old thread, but this needs correcting;
the Mini Golf, Swans, Funfair area aren't funded by the council, they're private money paying rent for the sites.
I doubt much has happened about the Golden Lion since we last looked at this - except further deterioration. Having read the article below I’m surprised it was never really regarded as a sufficiently important building to warrant proper preservation. As an ancient Hall/house if the Gild if St John it’s a crying shame it’s sat rotting in Cannon Hill Park all these years.
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pjmburns
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Just read an article in Mosely B13 magazine (not scanning it as unsure of copyright).
"Historic Pub in Cannon Hill Park to get a New Lease of Life.
A £32,008 grant by Historic England will go towards a £40,008 project development scheme with the aim of bringing Cannon Hill Park's Grade 2 listed Golden Lion pub back into use. "
The money is funding to carry out development works to establish the extent of decay and cost of repairs. Once this has been done work will be begun to establish plans for the future of the site. Birmingham Conservation Trust are involved.
Not sure how, if at all, the fnancial situation at the council will affect this plan.
"Historic Pub in Cannon Hill Park to get a New Lease of Life.
A £32,008 grant by Historic England will go towards a £40,008 project development scheme with the aim of bringing Cannon Hill Park's Grade 2 listed Golden Lion pub back into use. "
The money is funding to carry out development works to establish the extent of decay and cost of repairs. Once this has been done work will be begun to establish plans for the future of the site. Birmingham Conservation Trust are involved.
Not sure how, if at all, the fnancial situation at the council will affect this plan.
Not much more info
www.birminghamconservationtrust.org
Plans to bring Cannon Hill Park pub building back into use
More than £30,000 has been pledged to help create a plan for the site's future.
www.bbc.co.uk
Historic England reveals plans for derelict Grade-II Listed pub in Cannon Hill Park « Birmingham Conservation Trust
www.birminghamconservationtrust.org
Could be promising. At least it's now being seriously looked at.
yes its a start but this is only to look at the state of the building and could just be a token effort after all the press regarding the loss of the crooked house 
... but after spending years visiting and photographing many empty and neglected buildings i know that just 5 years takes its toll but after over 20 years of neglect its going to be a big and costly project if it can be saved... i am not trying to be negative here just realistic in todays economic climate and lets face it we have heard all these promises before regarding other heritage buildings..also i think its owned by bcc in which case as the city is now bankrupt how will they pay for restoration...we can only wait and see but personally i think this is a case of too little too late...fingers crossed and everything else for this one as over the years i have seen it go from bad to worse
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... but after spending years visiting and photographing many empty and neglected buildings i know that just 5 years takes its toll but after over 20 years of neglect its going to be a big and costly project if it can be saved... i am not trying to be negative here just realistic in todays economic climate and lets face it we have heard all these promises before regarding other heritage buildings..also i think its owned by bcc in which case as the city is now bankrupt how will they pay for restoration...we can only wait and see but personally i think this is a case of too little too late...fingers crossed and everything else for this one as over the years i have seen it go from bad to worselyn
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Details of what they can give grants for are at:
https://historicengland.org.uk/imag...ts/repair-grants-har-guidance-for-applicants/
https://historicengland.org.uk/imag...ts/repair-grants-har-guidance-for-applicants/
jan no one more than i would be happy if this wonderful building was saved...a few years back i contacted the council a few times but received not one reply so as you say fingers crossed
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It's interesting that Mike's Historic England link in post #197, emphasises possible HE support for the purpose of protecting the historic fabric and/or where there is a structural need. And any application must be for work that needs to be done to reduce the risk that the property faces or to enable the risk to be reduced.
This gives me hope ! This building qualifies on several counts, if HE can be persuaded (that is, after the current HE supported survey and a plan of works prepared). Even if further support is given to simply reduce the risk, it's a step in the right direction.
I think the fact that the City coffers are empty, helps the Golden Lion's case. There's absolutely no way the Council will throw money at it now, after all these years. So it's down to others to pick up the project if they really want to preserve a significant historic building. The pressure's on.
This gives me hope ! This building qualifies on several counts, if HE can be persuaded (that is, after the current HE supported survey and a plan of works prepared). Even if further support is given to simply reduce the risk, it's a step in the right direction.
I think the fact that the City coffers are empty, helps the Golden Lion's case. There's absolutely no way the Council will throw money at it now, after all these years. So it's down to others to pick up the project if they really want to preserve a significant historic building. The pressure's on.
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Anyone heard if there's any progress on this ?
hi viv not heard anything ..this is an old bit of news here from 2016 but there is also some amazing footage of inside the golden lion...cant believe i missed it
www.birminghammail.co.uk
This pub in Cannon Hill Park could be reopened - here's the plan
Food festival in Cannon Hill Park aims to generate great ideas to preserve Birmingham's Golden Lion forever
www.birminghammail.co.uk
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Thanks Lyn, video isn't opening for me. Wonder if it's available somewhere else ?
viv it working for me click on the link again and just scroll down a bit and hopefully the video will show on the right hand side. it will be small but you can make it full screen..let me know if you get it
No still no joy. But I've looked on Friends of the Golden Lion page on Facebook - there's another one from 2016, not sure if this is the same
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thanks viv slightly different to the one i posted but it does show the inside of the pub...having now seen these videos i just cant understand why for over 20 years or so its been left to rot...this now looks doable to me but they need to get their fingers out and quickNo still no joy. But I've looked on Friends of the Golden Lion page on Facebook - there's another one from 2016, not sure if this is the same
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Two images from better days. Hadn't realised the rear had a gallery. This could be such a wonderful historic asset and useful space. Let's hope it will be restored.
For anyone interested in the Jeilliffe brick (image #4 in post #205), see David Kitching's : Old Bricks site here
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pjmburns
master brummie
I can't answer your question but....I live in the same ward as Cannon Hill Park and the newsletter of one of our councillors has this:
Get involved with looking after Cannon Hill Park
The fledgling new and revitalised Friends of Cannon Hill Park group will hold their second meeting on Wednesday 28th February 6.30pm at The MAC. With the recent announcement of Historic England funding towards restoration of The Golden Lion inside the park but also the looming cuts to council services and staff, community involvement is all the more important to make sure we shape and maintain our open spaces and parks for the future.
Also attached was this poster
