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George Dixons Grammar School

Ex Brummie 71

Brummie babby
Hi Steve; I cannot confirm that the first name of Mills was Robert or not. Maybe David Hart or Paul Wolf can help as they were in the science sixth with him.
Hi Steve there was a Karl Mills in our year who was one of my good friends. between school and university we along with Dave Lucas and one other friends did a grand tour of the midlands canals in a dinghy and tent.
 

Ex Brummie 71

Brummie babby
Hi Paul, good to hear from you after 50 years! Glad you’re well and like me enjoying a second marriage. Sorry to hear of your father’s passing in Israel. My father died in Birmingham aged 89 in 2015, he came to UK with the kinder transport from Germany in 1939. My mother who is a well-known Auschwitz survivor is still alive at 95 and lives in Hertfordshire near to my brother who was also at GD.
I well remember you playing clarinet in the orchestra. Why did you move to Cheshire?
I left UK in 1997 where I was working as a GP when my first marriage broke up and since then have been in Germany where I worked as a GP with the British Army until 2016, then as a GP in the German prison service and since Nov. 2020 I’m a GP in a private American practice in south Germany. I still live in the north near Hannover and commute 500km by train twice weekly. I love it though.
I don’t remember your younger brother.

Hi Paul, good to hear from you after 50 years! Glad you’re well and like me enjoying a second marriage. Sorry to hear of your father’s passing in Israel. My father died in Birmingham aged 89 in 2015, he came to UK with the kinder transport from Germany in 1939. My mother who is a well-known Auschwitz survivor is still alive at 95 and lives in Hertfordshire near to my brother who was also at GD.
I well remember you playing clarinet in the orchestra. Why did you move to Cheshire?
I left UK in 1997 where I was working as a GP when my first marriage broke up and since then have been in Germany where I worked as a GP with the British Army until 2016, then as a GP in the German prison service and since Nov. 2020 I’m a GP in a private American practice in south Germany. I still live in the north near Hannover and commute 500km by train twice weekly. I love it though.
I don’t remember your younger brother.
Hi David
I am intending to post some photos on the facebook group that i have just discovered. i thought this one might amuse you and your family. Taken on one of the science field trips.20150810105632_01.jpg
 

Bob Hughes

knowlegable brummie
The surname Mills is familiar but I cannot recall if the first name was Robert. It’s an interesting list to look at and handwritten. There are numbers by names, what significance are they? My name is there in lower sixth science where I was in 1970 until the start of the Autumn Term in September 1970. I recognise most of the other names in my year.
I also recognise several names from the upper sixth lists including Mark Williams who joined my year and Eli Pedahzur who qualified as a doctor eventually and is now retired. He changed his surname to Leyton.
Between the end of exams and the end of the school year several of us in the upper sixth in 1970 went on a road trip to see Hair in London. The numbers and names circled in yellow was Digby Emson's way of keeping track of who was going and who had paid. Mills first name may be Karl as mentioned in another post on this forum.
 

David Hart

knowlegable brummie
Yes, Paul Wolf remembers a Karl Mills so that must be him.
So nice to communicate with you Paul after all these years plus we have a lot in common descended from Jewish refugees.
If you wish to remain in contact please email me at [email protected]
It is ironical that I live now in Germany and am married to a lovely German woman 10 years younger than me after my family’s history but my mother loves my wife and has visited us in Germany. I’ve now got dual nationality. If you email me I’ll send you some photos of us here.
 

Fred Kilby

New Member
Hi Steve there was a Karl Mills in our year who was one of my good friends. between school and university we along with Dave Lucas and one other friends did a grand tour of the midlands canals in a dinghy and tent.
Hello,
This is Fred Kilby, I'm living in Nairobi these days. I graduated in the summer of 1971 and had a chance to reminisce with Robert Hodgson in May after a year locked down in Oxford (Covid not the jail). Hard to believe its been 50 years . Too bad there wasn't a reunion. All the best to everyone.
 

David Hart

knowlegable brummie
Hi Fred,
i remember you well especially as your birthday is a day before mine. Yours is 29th June and mine is 30th June. I remember you in the sixth form and saw you on a recent photo of us all in 1971 which was posted here. So like me you’re 68 now. Where have 50 years gone? What are you doing now in Nairobi?
Are you retired, what work did you do?
As you’ve probably read I am a doctor, 45 years in practice this summer and working as a GP in a private American family practice in south Germany near the huge US Base at Ramstein.
im married the second time and have a German wife 10 years younger than me and a 17 year old son. I have 3 adult daughters from my first wife living in UK and I have 3 grandsons.
yes, a reunion would have been nice just like I attend every 5 years with my medical school year.
Anyway, all the very best and I hope you’re in good health. David
 

Kathsutton46

knowlegable brummie
Interesting post there John. Like you I started in 1A at GD and have good memories of Rudolph and Martin, as well as Paul Mayhew. My illustrious start in an ‘A’ stream class was doomed to have me with you John and others, swimming in the depths of the ‘C’ stream from year two for the rest of my sentence at GD. I have nobody to blame but myself for the attitude I took when, early on after a poor academic showing, I was told by one of the particularly acidic teachers that “somebody has to sweep the roads.” Subsequently I know that I developed a poor attitude that resulted in me leaving with only 3 ‘O’ levels. One year later at Hall Green Tech. I gathered up 5 more ‘O’s with grades 1 in Maths and English language and 3’s in Physics, Chemistry and English literature. Clearly, I responded to the attitude of the teaching staff at Hall Green, that all students be treated as young adults and not as potential road sweepers. Kudos to all the ‘A’ and 'B' streamers at GD who went on to have successful careers. However, I believe that many of us ‘C’ streamers went on to have successful careers also, despite the dire predictions meted out to us. Semi-rant over.
Interesting your comments about your treatment at GD I left the girls school in1962, my experience was very similar. The Headmistress one, Violet A Organ MA, was only interested in girls whose parents were professionals, even though a large percentage of the girls came from working class backgrounds, I still can recall the time after being sent to see her for misbehaving, Miss Organ informed me I would never make anything of my life because of my accent. Not much point in bothering I thought, and I didn’t. Left at 16, started work, went to day release college and night school, got all my qualifications while being paid. Ended up running a business with my husband employing 80 people. Miss Organ was so wrong!
 

A Sparks

master brummie
I think it's very bad practice for any teacher to make negative comments to pupils - they should be there to encourage and help young people.
She did you a good turn in the long run but that comment could have been very crushing to someone else.
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
Interesting your comments about your treatment at GD I left the girls school in1962, my experience was very similar. The Headmistress one, Violet A Organ MA, was only interested in girls whose parents were professionals, even though a large percentage of the girls came from working class backgrounds, I still can recall the time after being sent to see her for misbehaving, Miss Organ informed me I would never make anything of my life because of my accent. Not much point in bothering I thought, and I didn’t. Left at 16, started work, went to day release college and night school, got all my qualifications while being paid. Ended up running a business with my husband employing 80 people. Miss Organ was so wrong!
oh well done to you kath...you are living proof that one does not have to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth to make something of yourself...only difference is you most likely had to try even harder and have such determination after such a negative comment from your head and i have to say i do not think such a comment would be made today ...well done

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Harry Flashman

master brummie
Interesting your comments about your treatment at GD I left the girls school in1962, my experience was very similar. The Headmistress one, Violet A Organ MA, was only interested in girls whose parents were professionals, even though a large percentage of the girls came from working class backgrounds, I still can recall the time after being sent to see her for misbehaving, Miss Organ informed me I would never make anything of my life because of my accent. Not much point in bothering I thought, and I didn’t. Left at 16, started work, went to day release college and night school, got all my qualifications while being paid. Ended up running a business with my husband employing 80 people. Miss Organ was so wrong!
Kath it appeared she was very much wrong, just as they were in my case and probably innumerable other cases. I've reflected back over the years at the treatment meted out to many pupils at GD. Some of the 'teachers' were more inclined to sarcasm than to encouraging learning. In those cases I believe these were deeply unsatisfied people, perhaps in home life, or in their unrealised academic accomplishments that had them teaching at a grammar school instead of a fine seat of learning. For my 'road sweeper' self I had a successful career with a corporation in the United States, eventually being owner of a small company, just outside Atlanta, employing 49 people. I now live happily in a small cabin the mountains of western North Carolina with my long suffering wife and three dogs.
 

DavidGrain

master brummie
I think it can depend a lot on the teachers that you encountered in your school life. I remember one teacher in the boys school who reminded us several times that we were in the top 26% of boys in the city as the majority of the school age population did not have the advantage of a grammar school education. Whether or not that prompted us to try harder. I cannot say. I was lucky to go to GD as I lived in Worcestershire outside the city boundary and I actually failed the Worcestershire 11+ but also took the Birmingham 11+ and was fortunate to get a place as at that time we were allowed to sit the exams in different areas. My sister, who is younger than me, was not allowed to do that but managed to get into GD on the basis of her success in the Worcestershire 11+.
 

Steve Maybury

GOLF NUT
Hi Steve there was a Karl Mills in our year who was one of my good friends. between school and university we along with Dave Lucas and one other friends did a grand tour of the midlands canals in a dinghy and tent.
Thanks, not my cousin, so he must have been in another year.
 

SussexBrummie

New Member
Does anybody recognize anybody in the attached photo. Was taken at a sports day at the Hadley Stadium in the circa late 1960's
I think that might be my old mate Es Rosen centre of middle row
If l remember correctly both he and Rudi Smith went on to play for Moseley
Also remember school trip to Cardiff Arms Park to support Rod Watts playing for England Under 18s
Happy days!
 

SussexBrummie

New Member
My daughter linked me to this site yesterday....and its a great trip down memory lane!
I was at GD 1962-68 and although discipline was strict l think l got a good education
Malcolm Hannay was my favourite teacher....gave me a lifelong love of Spain and all things Spanish
Remember so many people...to name but a few Es Rosen, Greg Turvey, Jeff Heath, Chris Haynes, Richard Carter, Terry Topping and Richard Small....would love to know how many of us are still around
 
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