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Finding a family mystery


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My gt gt grandfather apparently was a publican in Aston Birmingham around 1850/60/70. He was William Smith and had a daughter Ellen Letitia Smith. On her marriage 1884 she stated her father was a publican deceased. I would love to know more about him, his wife and Ellen’s birth.

Regards Marilyn


Master Barmmie
For a start there are mentions of a Mr William Smith, Queens Hotel, Aston September 1871.

In 1881 mention of a late William Smith, Model Brewer, Aston.

1863 William Smith, beerseller, Aston Road.


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Staff member
This seems to be a bit difficult. The 1871 census , when searched for an Ellen Smith with father William Smith in Birmingham or the immediately adjacent areas shows only a grocer and provision dealer who , if he had an off licence could be described as beer retailer, though I do not think it likely that this is him. No one listed as a publican. In the 1872 PO directory there are 7 William Smiths listed as a publican and 3 as a beer retailer ((which could be someone running a beerhouse or an off licence


master brummie
Found a death but can't see a matching birth.

Who were the marriage witnesses?

Did she put the same on her second marriage?