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Eagle And Tun Pub

mikejee said:
Some places do a lot more to save their pubs
www.theguardian.com

Liverpool pub with spectacular loos becomes first to be Grade I-listed

Philharmonic Dining Rooms first purpose-built pub in England to gain top heritage status
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I have been in this pub several times and took photos in the toilets!! This building stands in a vibrant part of the city close to the colleges and uni plus the Catholic cathedral. Consequently, unlike the land around Curzon Street station which is now required for something else, this building was never at risk at any time. Liverpool has lost some jewels too where redevelopment has taken place. However, they have retained some rather epic buildings. Check out the interior of St. George's Hall which is just across from Lime Street Station : https://www.cultureliverpool.co.uk/event/minton-floor-reveal/
 
What you say is true, but the Eagle & Tun was also very close to one of the city's universities , pretty close to another , and to the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire .
 
mikejee said:
What you say is true, but the Eagle & Tun was also very close to one of the city's universities , pretty close to another , and to the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire .
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Just to clarify my position on this ... I am against HS2 and the removal of the Eagle and Tun. How could I want to see another pub demolished? However, Boris will keep digging!
 
This gives a snapshot of the Inn in 1849. It describes it as a commercial inn and having an excellent pump of water. So would it have had a well on or near the premises ? Viv.

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thanks viv that is very interesting ...so does the snippet refer to the pub that is there now as it does not look as though its been there since at least 1846 or has it? the snippet says its a very old inn in 1846...very likely there was a well somewhere near...be surprised how many birmingham had dotted around..

lyn
 
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There was a pub from at least 1839, as seen by these cuttings. Also several sales of land previous to this on the corner of the two streets, in one of which is mentioned a malthouse, which would be convenient for a nearby pub

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ellbrown said:
Got this photo of the gents at the Eagle & Tun last month.

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Yuk, looks 'orrible ... but thanks for posting. Check out the "Caution, Cleaning in Progress" sign. It would take an army of cleaners working around the clock to sort that place out! In fact, it would take a while just to clean the "Cleaning in Progress" sign itself. And eerrgh, what's with the spent tissue lying on the surface?

Here's my top tip folks ... if you visit a place with the intention to eat, have a look at the yard or back and go in the toilets. If either are looking ropey then do not under any circumstances eat at that establishment. It is not easy to access the service area in some cases and you may have to look over a fence or whatever. However, the state of the yard will give you a very good indicator of how the place is being run and the standards of hygiene being set. You would be surprised to find that many places that look OK from the front are actually filthy inside. I have quite a lot of experience in the food industry and, believe me, you wouldn't credit the low standards in some places. I cannot print the names of well-known pubs here as I would risk being sued but I have seen the very worst of filth in the kitchens.
 
Astoness said:
thanks viv that is very interesting ...so does the snippet refer to the pub that is there now as it does not look as though its been there since at least 1846 or has it? the snippet says its a very old inn in 1846...very likely there was a well somewhere near...be surprised how many birmingham had dotted around..

lyn
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I have some notes on this place somewhere. Off the top of my head I cannot remember the date but it is a rebuild, probably late 1890s.
 
mikejee said:
There was a pub from at least 1839, as seen by these cuttings.
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I have an auction poster dated 1843 which states that there was still 67 years on the lease. Unfortunately, it does not state how long the original lease was for. Quite often such leases are for 99 years but I cannot confirm this in this particular case.
 
Unfortunately I have come to learn that the Eagle and Tun will not survive HS2. I am so sad, I am lost for words. Thanks to ell for the pics.

What a shame that this building could not have been incorporated and preserved. It would have made such a difference and made so many people happy that it had survived.

How fabulous it would have been to build the station around it and kept the roof, what a great atmosphere that would have created.

If I had millions I would love to be able to save such places.

So sorry to learn about this.
 
Glad you liked my photos Kat. Was thanks to Karl Newton for organising the first Brumtography photo meet last month. Was my first and last time in the Eagle & Tun. Was so much contents inside that they needed to sell, then that fire happened.
 
thanks for the updated photo son (tom)...no doubt that if it was not for the lockdown it would not be there now...its days are numbered... :mad: :(

mom
 
This is so very sad. Leaving aside the UB40 connections, this was one of the few authentic street corner inner city pubs left in Birmingham. In recent years it stood alone in what had become a bit of a wasteland. What stories it could have told. I have warm memories of a warm and welcoming place back in the mid seventies when I worked nearby. A coal fire always on the go in wintertime and the sort of salt of the earth characters, many getting on a bit that you always found in pubs like this back in that time.
 
JohnJames said:
Looking at this pic of the part demolition of this storied pub makes me wonder if it is being dismantled rather than being roughly demolished. The brickwork on this pub, particularly on the second story and chimneys was superb. Anyone know the score around its demolition?
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sorry james i dont but i take your point about how the pub is being demolished

lyn
 
yes most unusual way of demolishing james...as you know we were told years ago the pub would be staying next we hear its to be demolished...maybe its just a new way of doing it:rolleyes:...or maybe some bricks and the chimneys have been taken away to be used elsewhere...very odd

lyn


this dated 2014
EAGLE AND TUN PUB TO BE TRANSFORMED IN HS2 DEVELOPMENT
GALLERY JUNE 5, 2014 KATHLEENBUSH LEAVE A COMMENT
In new plans unveiled by Birmingham City Council this May, it has been revealed that the Eagle and Tun public house would be transformed and incorporated into the new Curzon Street Gateway as part of the proposed HS2 developement.
The Eagle and Tun, on the corner of Banbury Street, has a quirkier history than most. The location for UB40’s ‘Red Red Wine’ video and a once thriving music venue, the pub now sits derelict. With a local listing status of Grade B, the building has been unused since its closure in 2008.
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it almost looks as though the bottom fascade is being retained john..most confusing but i cant seem to find any recent updates

lyn
 
I wonder if John means they are dismantling it with more care so as to keep anything from inside that maybe recyclable?
There are specialist second-hand people who can sell on interesting bits and pieces - tiles, wood features etc for re-use.
I do hope so!
 
A Sparks said:
I wonder if John means they are dismantling it with more care so as to keep anything from inside that maybe recyclable?
There are specialist second-hand people who can sell on interesting bits and pieces - tiles, wood features etc for re-use.
I do hope so!
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yes thats possible sparks but it would have been better if HS2 had honoured their promise that the eagle and tun would be retained...again a map to prove that this was the plan..i cant get up to town as the min but if any of our members are passing by we could do with an updated photo to see if the pub has or has not been flattenedeagle and tun to be retained map.png

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