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Can I ask if anyone has a picture of how Dale End was, we have received an inquiry with regard to a picture or two which might have been on the old Forum. Dale End showing Carrs Lane before M&S and as it is now?
Mr Norton as said it's OK to use the pictures as long as we acknowledge the fortitude of is father in taking these photographs and keeping them for posterity
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re. the picture of Dale End. I was one of the PC's who used to do point duty there. We stood on the Bull Street side of the toilets and controlled all the traffic approaching us from each of the adjacent roads, Bull Street, Dale End, and Albert Street. I tried to make a name for myself by asking for a raised box for the policeman to stand on so that drivers could see him better. I was invited to attach my request report to the original file. Officers had been asking the same question since about 1925, and each time it was marked up something like 'this is only a temporary post.' Still, I thoroughly enjoyed the job.
YES PLEASE ROD, AND WOODMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND DOWN LOAD A PICTURE OF ALBERT ST, AND BULL ST, WHERE HENRY,S USED TO BE , WITH THE TOILETS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WITH THE POLICE MAN DIRECTING THE TRAFFIC IN THE CENTRE , WHICH WOULD ALSO SHOW THE JACIE PICTURE / THEARTER HOUSE WITH ITS FLASHING ENTERAINMENT RUNNING AROUND,MY GRAND MOTHER BERTHA, VICTORIA JELF , USED TO BRING ME UP THROUH AN ALLEY WAY BETWEEN ALBERT ST, AND CARRS LANE TO THE JACY PICTURES ON THE EVENING WHEN IT WAS DARK AND THE PICTURE HOUSE LOOKED FANTASTIC AND IT LITT UP THE SQAURE, SHE BROUGHT ME UP FROM NEW CANNAL ST, IT RAN FROM NEW CANNAL ST, AND THE SIDING OF FAZELY ST, TO THE TOP OF ALBERT ST, IN 1949, NAN JELF WAS MARRIED TO ERNEST JELF, BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ;;;;
just obtained a copy of Marks Book. Intial problem of
Publishers. Got this copy at Waterstones Stratford upon Avon.
Great Book and a tribute to him and his Dad for these wonderful
The book asks us some searching questions. Clearly without
Colmore Row Birmingam would have been destroyed.
Some of old v new leave you wondering how such beautiful
buildings were destroyed and replaced with some strage square blocks.
Grear Book well done Mark plus your Dad
The numbered OS map of c 1950 would seem to indicate a slight shift in numbering (probably due to rebuilding after bombing) compared to the c 1903 map below, but Hedges Chemists were nos 10, 11 & 12 Dale end, and on the map below I am pretty sure the two buildings marked in red were nos 11 & 12. That would make the newer-looking office buildings to the left of Hedges the offices of the Birmingham City Electrical Supply Dept. To the left of these was nos 17 & 18, and the wide entrance half shown on the far edge of the photo would have been the Imperial Arcade, which I have marked in green as it is not named on the map. If you enlarge the photo and sharpen it you can just make out the "RIS" of Harris (from William Edward Harris, printers) on the 1st floor board on no 17. they are not listed there in the 1900 Kellys, but are there in 1903. Lawden & Poole, coppersmiths, (on the board sticking out from no 17) were not there in the 1910 Kellys, but there in 1912. therefore the earliest date for the photo(allowing for difference in Kellys between collection of data and publication) is 1910. Lawden continues to feature on the electoral rolls till 1935, but Harris disappears between 1922 & 1925. therefore it would seem that the photo was taken between 1910 and 1924
Going back to post #13 perhaps this will help you locate Hedges Chemists a little more accurately. As the original photo shows there have been quite a few changes to Dale End over the years. In the original photo we can see has been taken from the bottom of Bull Street and the top of Albert Street. Albert Street has now been moved further along Dale End, but used to be where Mac Donald's is now, the chemist shop is behind the bus. I would say somewhat just short of where the multi- storey car park is now.