Clifton Road Aston

[Louisa]

Some of the houses in Clifton Road seem to have different layouts. I am particularly interested in the layout of 30 Clifton Road.

This is my granny's house and I was in it many times as a child and in my minds eye I can see the parlour and back room quite vividly but even though I was upstairs in the house how many bedrooms the house had and whether they had a scullery or inside toilet escapes me now.

Hope someone can help jog my memory.
Louisa

 

[Ray Barrett]

Hello Robert,Sorry I have taken so long to reply.Well,I would be proud to say "I was the son of Arthur Burley" he was my "corner man " when I Boxed as a lad,him and his brother Jack used to train us at Upper Thomas St.school.The last time I saw him was on a visit to "The Bricklayers" and the last time I saw Jack was in a pub near Droitwtich,he lived nearby. You live in Rugby.Well, I go there often,was there this week,I now live in Daventry.

Jack lived about 100yards from the pub in Droitwich,saw him in there a few times.He was also, along with his bro Arthur our corner men.We had one in each corner at U.T.S.during an early boxing tournament,opponents couldn't be found for us little 'uns so they put 4 of us in a corner each and we had battle royal.me cousin Jim Smith,Alan Williams,"nipper Ford and myself Ray barrett.I also have a boxing Bill from 1949.Oh,and I now live in Daventry.

 

[Wingmaster]

Hi. I'm new to this forum.

My parents lived in Clifton road, as did I up until the age of 5. We moved out in 1964. My parents are Barry and Brenda Birch who rented the rear of a butchers shop just up from Baglins coal yard. I haven't a clue what it was called. I think we lived at 132(a) Clifton Road. My dads parents lived opposite, up an alleyway. His mom was Minnie Birch, his dad was Henry Alfred Birch, their address was 2/147 Clifton Road. My mom's parents lived in Park Lane, Percy Webster was her dads name, I'll have to see if I can find out her moms and the exact address....(I remember as a small child walking past the cobblers on Park Lane with a giant policeman painted on the wall). I also remember a grocers, Hunts?, at the bottom of Clifton road and a grocery store on Upper Sutton Street between Clifton Road and Victoria Road, my parents referred to it as Connies I think.

I've had a look through the site and am struggling to find many photos of Clifton Road or Park Lane as most of them are showing 'attached thumbnail' and won't open. I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to re-upload any they have.

 

[DAJ]

Roy it's so nice to read your story of your childhood thank you so much for sharing it with us. These memories must never be forgotten.

I am new to this forum, but I noticed the name Jennings in the Clifton Road thread. I only found out today that my parents, Leslie and Cath Jennings ( plus me a first born), lived in 264 Clifton Road in the early 1950's before moving to Great Barr. It would be nice to know if anybody remembers the names. Unlikely I know.

 

[Scarlet]

Hi. I'm new to this forum.

My parents lived in Clifton road, as did I up until the age of 5. We moved out in 1964. My parents are Barry and Brenda Birch who rented the rear of a butchers shop just up from Baglins coal yard. I haven't a clue what it was called. I think we lived at 132(a) Clifton Road. My dads parents lived opposite, up an alleyway. His mom was Minnie Birch, his dad was Henry Alfred Birch, their address was 2/147 Clifton Road. My mom's parents lived in Park Lane, Percy Webster was her dads name, I'll have to see if I can find out her moms and the exact address....(I remember as a small child walking past the cobblers on Park Lane with a giant policeman painted on the wall). I also remember a grocers, Hunts?, at the bottom of Clifton road and a grocery store on Upper Sutton Street between Clifton Road and Victoria Road, my parents referred to it as Connies I think.

I've had a look through the site and am struggling to find many photos of Clifton Road or Park Lane as most of them are showing 'attached thumbnail' and won't open. I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to re-upload any they have.[/QUOTE

Most of my fathers family (Underhill) lived in Park Lane & Clifton Road. The first 2 pictures are Park Lane, the 3rd one is Clifton Road.

 

[sylviasayers]

I think the name of the shop in the first photo on the corner of Park Lane/Upper Thomas Street was Ingrams. Can anyone confirm?

 

[mikejee]

Mrs Gladys Ingram no 138 Park St in 1964

 

[Astonian]

Hi scarlet
The second picture you look at on park lane looking down the park lane to the. Cross on the right hand of the picture of the picture
There is three shops and a van being loaded that was my grand parents business,s they had all three of those shops and where you see the drive
On the pavement which in the picture is the second one down by the shops behind those shops up the opening g between those shops
Was a rear back house owned by them as well they rented it to the macks family for donkeys years
The three shops in question was a fish and chip shop and a coffee shop and the middle between the shops was there catering business
Named jelfs Crockery hire and there two storey ware house for grocery provisions for all there coffee shops around birminghamAnd at the very bottom of the picture you see a picture of latams that was also there coffee shop for many years from at least the 1930 til around the 1953/4 when they sold it to Latham's
They also had the fish and chip shop next to the billiard hall opersite which was next to the billiard hall on the cross
And my father ran the bar there inside up stairs and he also done all the relieved for the surrounding pubs around the Aston cross for all the gathers of the pubs around and also ran the golden cross pub for many years right up until he died in 1958 he also ran a news agents shop on Victoria red oppersite
The Victoria road police station in the thirty /forty for my grand parents Jelfs until one day grand father tried to tell him how to run the shop
So he told him gets some one else and left it to him my mother was born at number 4 parilment street Aston
He lived in George road erdinton and they met at another coffee shop of jelfs /my grand parents the one on park road hockley
And he courted her from there home address in new canal street when they was young and he worked at Charles harris,
Bakelite moulders in lodge road Shockley he only got the job because Charles was an old flame of my mother from ever sham
When they was young and he was well in with the jelfs in the village
Best wishes astonian,,,,

 

[Scarlet]

Thats very interesting astonian, we seem to both have relatives living very near each other. My grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Welch was born at Court 3, Park Lane, before moving to 6 Upper Sutton Street to live with her Uncle, Harry Welch, she was only 9 years old. She later moved to 9 Upper Sutton Street to live with a Mary Hopton, not sure if she was related, I haven't found a connection yet, after she married she moved to 10 Parliament St. My grandfather Joseph Underhill use to live at 142 Park Lane and for a while boarded at 38 Clifton Rd. I have been told that my Uncle, also Joseph Underhill had a small newsagents on Park Lane in the 50's/60's. Does anyone recall Underhill's?

 

[Astonian]

Hi scarlet
I also had relatives in upper Sutton street and Clifton rd my grand mother lived in Cromwell street and Parliament street
Before moving to George road in the 1920 as my father was born in 1922 my grand mother married. Jenning ,in Parliament street
The carriers and battery Maker before meeting a William Stevens whom was my fathers,father. Erdinton,
My other grand mother was in theaters and at the Aston hippo her name was Hinton Bertha, and a couple of thearter entertainers
Lodge with them she was a stage dancer with I think it was harry Levine dance group and I believe her grand father was a compare
At some theaters where it was the old music. Halls used to be in the 1800 s
The aunts and uncles was henry jelf , whom had the coffee shop on Aston cross which was kept in the family for years
All the jelfs had it one by one until my grand father last in line sold it to Latham's. Deco, in the fifty,s may I add Henry at another one in old summer lane
By Lucas,s and another one on Gerrard street facing farm street plus two booking offices /beating shops on at number 47 summer lane
And one at holly lane by Dunlop along with the coffee shop which he left by his father William George held and finally it was left to there sister ivy held whom never married and died in the general hospital in 1984 , best wishes Astonian,,,,,,,

 

[Brummieexile]

Just joined the site. Fascinating stuff and so many memories jogged. My grandfather was William (Bill) Baglin, who owned the coal merchant on Clifton Rd. His sons, Arthur and Ken (my dad) worked there when they were young but got out of the dirt and grime as soon as they could. We lived on Upper Sutton St in the late 60s for a few years when the redevelopment was going on, two houses up from the pub (The Crown?) on the corner of Upper Sutton St and Clifton Rd. I think the landlord's name was Albert Selman? My dad's second cousin ran the coal merchant at that point - I think his name was Edwin Baglin. Other names I remember from the time - Paul Terry (neighbour on Sutton St); the Hagans (from Clifton Rd); the D'arcy's (Sutton St); Annie Bagley (quite a character, I remember). As I said, we were there when everything was being knocked down and the Expressway being built. Mr Sears, my teacher at Upper Thomas St, got quite mad at me for having dirty shoes in the morning after walking across the bomb sites and over the bridge crossing the huge trench that became the A38, and made me clean my shoes in front of the class. Happy days. Still have the scar from falling into the cellar of a house that had been knocked down on Clifton Rd. Wow, years since I remembered any of that!

 

[Ray Barrett]

Hiya,Brummyexcile,

I knew your granddad Bill and dad Ken, oh, and your gt.gran Sarah,Arthur was my uncle,he was married to my moms sister.

 

[brenda barr]

Ray, l knew a Lily Baglin, she was in all my classes at Burlington St Sch....along with Audrey Wright, Shiela Trevitt ..l wonder where they are now.....Brenda

 

[Ray Barrett]

Brenda,
last time I saw Lily and Audrey (they are cousins),was about 18 years ago they were then about 61 and Lily didn't look a day over 35.You probably also knew my cousin Pat Slaney,she was a friend of lily and about the same age.

 

[Rutlandbelle]

Hi Wingmaster, I only found this forum yesterday when looking to find pics of Clifton Rd to put in a life story for my grandaughters. I couldn't believe it when I saw your post, we lived next door to your grandparents at 1/147. My parents Joe and Alice Tattam, my grandmother Letitia Smith and my brother and I, Jennifer and David. Opposite us were the Beddoes family who were great friends. What about your uncles Harry and Eric(?) I remember the butchers and coal yard of course, your parents certainly didn't move very far. Hope your still watching this forum, I have lots more memories of our time there, we moved when i was 11 in 1959

 

[Jeavons93CliftonRD]

Hello Does anyone remember Thomas Anson Jeavons and his wife Ellen who lived at 93 Clifton Road? The Jeavons' lived there from the 1930s until the 1960s I believe. They had 4 children: Thomas Francis born 1903,Marjorie Ellen born 1909, Winifred born 1915 and Bertram born 1910.
Thanks RD

 

[Rutlandbelle]

Hello Does anyone remember Thomas Anson Jeavons and his wife Ellen who lived at 93 Clifton Road? The Jeavons' lived there from the 1930s until the 1960s I believe. They had 4 children: Thomas Francis born 1903,Marjorie Ellen born 1909, Winifred born 1915 and Bertram born 1910.
Thanks RD

I remember the surname, so must have played with, gone to school with (Upper Thomas Street) or Sunday School at Park Rd Chapel. This would have had to be a child of one of the four children presumably as I lived at 1/147 from 1948 to 1959. Sorry I can't remember anything and sadly my mother died 11 years ago so don't have anyone to ask

 

[Jeavons93CliftonRD]

Thank you for getting back to me. Bertram born 1910 had 2 children: Bert born 1936 and Tony born 1938. They spent time at Masons Orphanage in the mid 1940s but would have spent time at Clifton Rd, Aston with their paternal grandparents so you may have maybe played with them at Sunday school but I'm not sure if they did attend.

 

[gingerjon]

There was a Anthony Jeavons I knew in my distant past he wore old fashioned glasses and a bit on the plump side I am sure he was in my class at Upper Thomas Street I was also born 1938.
I can still picture him in my mind but don't know why

 

[Jeavons93CliftonRD]

Yes thats the same Anthony. He lives in Weymouth now but will be in Bham early March. Their granny on Clifton Rd was Ellen Jeavons.

 

[gingerjon]

Do you have any photographs of him when he was at school or does he have any would be interested to see if my memory of him was same.

 

[Brummieexile]

Hi Ray/Hobgoblin. Thanks for replying - just signed back on for the first time. I guess if my Uncle Arthur is your Uncle Arthur, we must be almost related (sort of). His wife was my Aunt Connie and, after leaving Aston, they lived in Alum Rock until they passed away, some years ago now both of them. You must also know my cousins Carol, Kenny, Rodney, Gary and Neil?

 

[Carol021]

Was there a cloths shop in this road please if so did she have a son. Who was blinded by fireworks

 

[Madhair]

I'm a newbie to this forum and reading it made me want to join. I lived at 199 from 1954 until the end in 1971 or 72. I think ours was one of the poshest as we had an indoor bathroom. The person who had the house before my Mom and Dad was a director at HP and converted one of the bedrooms into a bathroom. We had a back yard which was separated from the big back garden by a shed. The back was enourmous and backed onto the houses in Victoria Road.

I don't recognise most of the names on the forum as we lived at the other end by Potters Hill. I went to Prince Albert with my brother and sister. My mom and dad moved to Clifton Road when I was about 3 weeks old. They are Joyce and Alf Henson. There were us 3 kids, Linda (the eldest), Me Debby (Deborah) and our brother Paul. I can remember the factory and there was a greengrocers next door or very near as I remember my mom sending me to get some spuds and she didn't want me to cross the road to go to Henney's on Potters Hill. I remember Henney's had an Irish Setter dog with a bald tail. They said it went bald due to banging it on the sacks of spuds when people came into the shop. There was a little shop over the road from us which was run by "Aunty Grace". She moved to Weston Super Mare with her husband. I remember several families around us. The Wintertons lived over the road not far from the Reynolds. That was the family whose little girl Margaret was murdered. I used to go to school with Susan her big sister and they had a little brother named Alan. I remember Dad going out on the evening that Margaret went missing with most of the men who lived by us to look for her. I went to Lacey's dentist when I chipped my front tooth swimming once. They made such a mess of mending it that I ended up with an abscess and had to have my tooth out. I ended up with a false tooth. Their equipment was really Victorian and scary. I also remember the doctors on Victoria Road. We lived by the Staples family and I think the piano teacher.

Once I had my free pass for swimming most of my school holidays were spent at the Victoria Road baths or we would go to Aston Park. I remember taking a neighbours baby for walks in the pram as far as Aston Park!! I was probably only about 9 at the time, it wouldn't be allowed now. We used to ride round the roads on our bikes. We used to go to school in Erdington and walked the length of Clifton Road to catch the 65 bus on Lichfield road.

We lived next door to the "longies" on one side. There were no houses onto the pavement but there were the back houses with a huge front garden. Dad isn't sure what happened to the front houses so if anyone knows we would love to find out. The numbers would have been 201 and 203 I would think. On the other side was a seed shop run by Mr and Mrs Latham. I remember being asked if I could help "the mantle" which turned out to the light bulb. Mrs Latham used to close her back room curtains when Mom pegged our nappies on the line. We didn't have any family living near but both Mom and Dad's families came from Aston. Mom's family lived in Summer Lane and then moved to Sudbury Grove in Kingstanding. Dad's family lived in Vicarage Road and moved to Rough Road Kingstanding.

By the time we were moved due to compulsory purchase, there were next to no houses left on the road. We had our front window smashed as it probably looked as though no one was in. We moved to Kingstanding I think in 1972.

I would love to see any photos or hear about anyone else who lived at that end of the road.

 

[Madhair]

did anyone use this dentist...???

laceys the dentist...clifton road..

lyn

I have just joined the forum and put in my first post that I had horrible memories of Lacey's. I chipped my front tooth and after several attempts by them to repair it I ended up with an abscess and had to have it removed. I spent my teenage with a false front tooth on a plate. The equipment was so old. I think he used to work the drill with his foot!!

 

[Astoness]

hi madhair and welcome to the forum...what great memories you have thanks for sharing them with us...there is a photo on post 13 and i have these 2...the one is of the street party for VE day

lyn

 

[mikejee]

I believe this photo, which has been reproduced several times previously, is incorrectly labelled as Clifton Road. The attached map c 1951 shows no.109 Clifton road on the opposite corner of Clifton road with Upper Sutton st to the Crown pub. the numbering is a little unusual as one would expect it to be labelled as in Sutton St. No 109 clifton road is listed as Doris Priest, drapers in all the 1950s,60s directories. therefore the only possible view , as far as I can see corresponding to the photo is looking down Upper Sutton St from the corner with Clifton road. Would appreciate any comments from people who knew the area then, hopefully confirming my deductions

 

[Jayell]

Mike could you post the map a bit further along which would show Court 25 Clifton Road please.

 

[Astoness]

thanks for posting that query mike...as you know my friend who we have been helping lived at 103 clifton road and she said that those houses are not the same as the one she lived in...her house had 2 upstairs bedroom windows and 2 steps up to the front door and those in that photo do not...she has also mentioned a coal yard nearby...hope someone who knew this road can help us

lyn

 

[TOPSYTURVEY]

Not sure if this pic has been on before it was taken from the Bham Mail some time back. Sadly it was of Margaret Reynolds funeral in 1966.