I am sure the cars and buses in this picture support you thoughts, the key lies in the second BCT bus, perhps Radiorails can tell us when the last of these models was disposed of. Somewhere in my treasures (or rubbish as my wife calls it), I have the original PSV circle history of BCT which gives all the disposal dates and I will try and sort it out. Unfortunately the two Midland Red buses are not clear enough (no front end view) to be able to help. Anyone remember when you could cross a major road like the people in this picture are?Reference dates on photos, this one of Victoria Square and Council House is in a Birmingham Mail collection and they have a date June 1936 under it. The photo shows two-way traffic in Colmore Row but I have seen photos dated 1934 taken by Phyllis Nicklin which clearly show one-way traffic in Colmore Row. I think this photo is much earlier than 1936.
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Bham Mail ... https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/nostalgia/gallery/grade-ii-listed-birmingham-council-9194668
Reference dates on photos, this one of Victoria Square and Council House is in a Birmingham Mail collection and they have a date June 1936 under it. The photo shows two-way traffic in Colmore Row but I have seen photos dated 1934 taken by Phyllis Nicklin which clearly show one-way traffic in Colmore Row. I think this photo is much earlier than 1936.
I knew you would have the answers and I agree on the Midland Red single decker.The older bus is not easily identified. Only the roof and upper deck are visible. It might be one of the types produced in 1926/7 but also could be a later a 1928 built bus. Whichever it is these buses were all withdrawn between 1935 and 1937 from passenger service.
Post 1807, which has a pre-war Daimler bus appears to have the cream pre-war roof.
The Midland Red bus (side on view) I think is one built 1930-33. The roof profile suggests it (to my old eyes) rather than the more angular rear dome of the late 1920's buses. But that is a suggestion.
I agree on the D7. The first of which entered service in August 1953. Flags and shield were probably for the Coronation a couple of months earlier. Only the one statue now set in a larger floral setting.I would have said early 1950s from the two buses. The corporation bus has the enclosed radiator and I think the Midland Red is a D7
Another photo of the ever-changing Victoria Square ... four statues in this view.
From the 1880's until 1912 Birmingham had quite a few different companies operating various types of tram: horse, cable, steam and electric. Some of these companies became part of the BET Co. from which the Midland Red emerged. The Birmingham & Midland Tramways dated back to November 1883 but in the early part of the 20th. century the corporation started to take control, usually after the expiry of leases, of the various parts of the cities tramways. In 1912 Birmingham & Midland Tramways (BET controlled) changed name to Birmingham District Power & Traction Co. having less interest in tramway systems.From the sign on the Galloways Corner building BIRMINGHAM MIDLAND TRAMWAYS and the absence of the King Edward VII statue I would date this to 20th century pre WWI or very soon after
Victoria is obvious, who were the other three and what happened to them?Another photo of the ever-changing Victoria Square ... four statues in this view.
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