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Camden Street, Brookfield, Birmingham

HI Maggs
I Was Going To Mention That One But I Thought Better Of It And The Reason Being That I Used To Work In The Back Preparing The Spuds Taking Out The Eyes
And Cutting Up And Battering The Fish And Also It Was My Auntie ELLEN,S Shop
Another Member Of The Jelf,s Brigade Because They Had A Couple Around Aston
But Yes She Was Mingie With Her Chips And Her Fish Was Not To Clever
I Remember One Friday A Man Came Into The Shop On The Friday Lunch Time
He Was A Gather From Bulpitts And Asked For A Peice Of Fish In Fact It Was Plaice
He Came Back At Five Oclock When We Openened And He Said To Aunty Ellen
That Peice Of Fish Was Disgusting And I Would Like A Refund She Told Him To Clear Off And Never To Return To The Shop Again ,
and Yes I certainly Remember That Shop And There Was A Bike Shop Next Door As Well Where I Bought My Spares From He Later Moved Across The Road next To Windbushes The Cake Shop Maggs Do You Remember THE Wrensons Oppersite The Toilets By Hingestion Street best wishes astonian ;;
 
Hello,

I have just found this thread, so sorry for not getting back sooner. I can't remember Wrensons, but I do remember Wimbushes, they made the best Apple Charlottes in the world. Do you remember Baines bakers, or Rees and Felix or even Hickmans the greengrocer?
 
Yes it has just come back to me, I do remember that grocery shop, but didn't know it was Wrensons. There was a big toy shop there too and Sketchley. Can't remember the name of the the toy shop at the moment, but on the way home from school I used to look in there and dream every day.
 
Astonian said:
HI CHARLIE
THERES EVERY CHANCE THAT I PROBABLY KNOWN YOUR GRAND FATHER
AND I CERTAINLY KNEW THE BIRDS VERY WELL LIKE I KNEW THE MOULTS
OF HEATH STREET AND THE PARKERS ANDTHE CASHES OF HEATH STREET AND OF CAUSE THE CLARKES OF VINCENT ST LADY WOOD
AS YOU SAY IF GRAND FATHER WAS USEING THESE PUBS REGULAR I WOULD HAVE KNOW HIM AND MAGGS I USED TO BUY THE CHIPS AS WELL For 3d IN tHE Large bags
And if You Remember The Other Chippies Used TO USE THE Small Bags
have a nice Day Guys BEST WISHES ASTONIAN ,;;
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hi astonian
i remember the maults old man mault passed away in the seventies, he was a bit of a rogue but lovable, he had a big funeral i was there, even a police escort to allow all the cars across dudley road after passing through heath street, he lived in clissold street in one of the new houses back in the early seventies, his eldest son H is dead and buried as is his wife dorothy, and his only daughter was killed in a car accident in the eighties, he lost a son in the canal through drowning long before i knew the family, they are all buried in lodge hill cemetary i always leave flowers when i am over that way, his remaining sons david and keith are still thriving, keith took in dorothys (the daughter) children when she died, old man mault had it hard he told me many a story there will never be another harold god rest him
best wishes anniekei
 
Astonian mentioned this firm....
WILMOT And Breedon ,Which Occupied The Top End Of Camden Street
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My Grandfather died while working as a Metal Caster at 1 Camdon St. Would this be the firm he worked for do you think?
Or am I at the worng end of Camdon St for it to have been Wilmot And Breedon ?

Thanx Chris/Pom :amgel:
 
Dr Tracy was my first dr and i am 28, he was my nan's dr all her life even when she moved out of the area to quinton, she still doesnt trust any other dr!!!!!!

Astonian said:
hi guys
yes ingleby street disapeared many years ago did any of you used the inglegby arms
when we used to have the old joe anna going for a song or two . i done a fair bit of singing there do you remember the old lady at the bottom of the street by spring hill passage oppersite prices cutley makers or even better the coach and horses over the rd and the queens head when they used to open at 10,30 in the morning and again at 5 ,oclock the familys that come to my mind are the chadwicks the williams [ old ginger ] he worked as a builder for wakelins in king edwards rd the humpreys and there is to many to mention some-one said camden st was close but it was a fair streets away
from ingleby stret old doctor tracy surgery was there he was a surgeon at dudley rd in fact it was him whom brought me into the big world how many of you danced at the old paliy which later became bulpitts ware house before moving down to camden street the old pali was always packed for the big bands playing there when they closed they closed the factory down and moved to briely hill they opened a shop for retail items in the old chester street for a while then they moved again
yes those were the days in the pubs ingleby arm ,the queens head ,the coach and horses then nip along ellen street to the grotto pub then up to the colledge arms then to the b/a then the duke of wellinton then the wind mill see old stan kirby then the lee bridge down to the brick layers arms then down to the yorkshire grey and straight up the the seven stars and get the b 87 bus back down to the turf at spring hill then the warstone then the gate and into the mint there was a rake of them them we would walk back up ickneild st to the chippie oppersite bulpitts whom we called airy mary a little stoute lady whom daughter was a film star she would haveall pics around the shop and occasionionaly we might end up in te great western best wishes astonian ,;;
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I was a patient of that doctor too (Treacy) I think that was how it was spelled. But I can tell a very different story, so can a friend of mine. Certainly not on the Forum though. Your Nan must have been lucky with him.
 
hi maggs
yes you have spelt it right old treacy was a sureon at dudley rd in is younger days but i have got to admitt even thou he brought me into this world
in his latter part of life he was making mistakes with peoples lifes i lost a good freind whom lived next to the wind mill pub he became ill and is mother called him out in
the night he said hes okay he just caught a chill stay in bed for a couple of days but the folowing morning he died had he sent him across the rd to the hospital he would have been probaly been here today i have heard storys of other peoples problems and he as cost them there lives and another reasonwhy i was not keen on him was when you walked into his room and by the time you walked across the room to his table and you sat at his chair he would have had your prescription made out before you uttered a word to him he lived in a big fancy house up sewyn rd edgbaston
steward street school playing fields used to back on to his house
best wishes astonian ;;;
 
My family lived in Camden St and Pope st for quite a few years my
Grandad William Sheppard lived in Camden Drive,but my mother and
siblings were born in Camden St.Last one to be born there was 1935.
My mother`s Aunts and Uncles were living there long after.
I wondered if anybody knew of the Sheppards.
Carol
 
i can remember the sheppards and the alllibones whom also lived in camden drive
i always thought of the camden drive as the posher houses compared to camden st
on the whole allibones had most of clothing shops around there on spring hill
two clothes shops and one large hard ware shop and one up spring hill pasage in the bottom of king edwards rd next to the bell pub on the corner of stour street
and there was one just along the street from camden drive next to the duro paint factory which was almost facing st peters church they was the good old days and i used to drink in the grotto pub camden st best wishes astonian .
 
Hi Astonian,
Thankyou for reading my message,can you remember anything about the
Sheppards as i never knew them, not even my Grandad.
I like to know what sort of people they were, good or bad.
Best Wishes
Carol
 
hi carol
Nice To Hear From You.Yes I Certainly Remember Them And There House
They Was Good Hard Working People And Highly Respectful,In Every Way
And There House Was Kept Immaculately So Was There Garden All The Year Around
And They Always Had Spotless Windows I Used To Call Them The Posh Ones
And There Neibours Was Also Especialy The Allibone Family Whom Had The Shops In The Area The Houses Was Painted Like A White /Grey Colour There Was A Batch Of Them The Steps Was Scrubbed Daily Or If Not They Was Painted In Red Tile Floor Polish They Was Really Smart And Pleasant At All Times Towards People Come What May Beleive Me There Was Some Right Charactors Of People Around The Area
Especialy As The Kids Moved Into The Wreck And They Opened Up A After School Club Ajoing The Old Park Keepers Hut And Afew Years Later In The Fifties And The Sixties It Started To Decline The Area There Was Two Murders That Happenend
Down The Rd In Hingestion Street One At The Pub The Gather Got Murderd In One
And A Lady Got Murdered By Her Husband Whom Lived Across The Road From The Other Pub And All She Done Was Going To Fetch Her Husbands Ciggies From The Off
Licence And He Accused Her Of Having An Affair With The Gather So He Split Her Her
Head Open And Killed Her He Got Life , The Young Guy Whom Stabbed The Gather
At The Laurrells Got Five Years But Getting Back To YOUR Ancesters They Was The Perfect Citezen Have A Nice Day Best Wishes Astonian ..
 
Astonian said:
hi maggs
yes you have spelt it right old treacy was a sureon at dudley rd in is younger days but i have got to admitt even thou he brought me into this world
in his latter part of life he was making mistakes with peoples lifes i lost a good freind whom lived next to the wind mill pub he became ill and is mother called him out in
the night he said hes okay he just caught a chill stay in bed for a couple of days but the folowing morning he died had he sent him across the rd to the hospital he would have been probaly been here today i have heard storys of other peoples problems and he as cost them there lives and another reasonwhy i was not keen on him was when you walked into his room and by the time you walked across the room to his table and you sat at his chair he would have had your prescription made out before you uttered a word to him he lived in a big fancy house up sewyn rd edgbaston
steward street school playing fields used to back on to his house
best wishes astonian ;;;
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I was interested in what you said about that doctor. I was eighteen and my friend was 16. All I can say is what he did to us, he would be struck off for these days. Of course those were the day's when we said nothing for fear of not being believed or just plain embarassment. I didn't find out until recently that my friend has suffered the same thing as I did. Have to say that although I was registered with that practice, I never went back to him, again, nor did my friend. Maggs.
 
Regarding the Ingleby pub. Some friends of mine ran it for a while in the 1950's. They were Mr & Mrs Walters, and their son John.

Does anyone remember them?
 
hi maggs
i sure do remember the family indeed they was a fantastic couple or should i say a family they ran the pub brilliantly never , never ever any trouble beleive me
they kept there pipes cleaned and served brilliant booze in those days i was only on brown and mild then ,but i have progressed since then and we used to have the old joe anna every night going and singing it was a very party pub and most of the ingleby street used it most nights of the week john and george myatt from ickneild port rd and of course myself started our singing there weekly they was a very family orinated people whom ran the pub best people you could ever meet always
laughing , smiling /joking ,and they had time for every body in those days it was open 10,30 and open at 5 ,by god i was calined every day of the week me tiker frisby and of course the adams family what a trio we was magg did you ever drink in there i probaly would have known you if you did i was hoping not so long ago to get to the barton arms to meet you and the gang ut it was not to be especialy you said you know the adams magg and me knowing virtualy most people from your neck of the woods brook field oh well magg there may be another time ah .
yes they was lovely people ,best wishes astonian ;;
 
I also went to Camden St School and absolutely loved it. I was there during the 1950's. The Head Mistress was Miss Edwards, I remember Mrs Mountford who was a last form teacher and we had french with her, she was a super teacher. There was Miss Gilmore, who did art and maths. Miss Evans and Miss Dry who did cookery. Mrs Gally who did science. Miss Oakton, who I just couldn't take to, I think many people felt the same. I also went to the Camden junior school too.
 
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I have 32 Camden Street as one of the addresses in my family history mine is in the Parish of St Pauls Birmingham, 1851 would this be the same Camden Street please.
 
hi miss jay
going back in time i would most certainly say that camden street was in the st pauls district as its about a mile from st pauls and knowing the area very well being brought up down and around there its virtualy at the top of warstone lane stroll down warstone lane and you are virtualy in camden street so yes i would say so '
but any way one of our experts whom keep all records of history will probably tell you and confirn it later to you i do not keep reference books or records. my knowledg is all stored in my expereinces of life of travelling if you persue the history of st pauls
you will learn of the under ground walk ways through the sqaure to the church of
st pauls and there drawings on the walls under ground passages drawn by the monks
that used to be there in time gone bye its got alot of history ;
have a nice day best wishes asytonian ,;;;
 
Camden Street is indeed in the district of St Pauls if you want to learn more about the history of the area I would recommend the books written by Kathleen Dayus who grew up in this area. One of our members family is mentioned in her books. I have an omnibus of Her People, All My Days, Where There's Life, The Best Of Times, on paperback that I have read.The center of the book has several photo's of the area. I would be happy to post it to a member for a small donation to the forum. It is in very good condition.
 
hi tresario..is there anyway you can post the pic of camden st again please like we can click on it to enlarge..dont worry if not....

many thanks..

astoness
 
In 1953 i lived in a bedsit on Summerfield Terrace in one of the big houses between The Albion pub & the Council? Home for Elderly Men, Swan Brands discount shop was round the corner in Camden St & they were taken over by the French company Moulinex. Len.
 
Does anyone know if Barker & Allen still exists as I am trying to get a picture of working conditions there and about the casting furnaces in eyre street ladywood where my father worked (George Morris)
George Morris
gf.morris@blueyonder.co.uk
 
hi moggie 13
barker and allen finished many years ago i think it was in the 70 .s
it became delta metals regards the conditions of working
was fairly good as i said delta industreal metals industrie s
had taken over barker and allen in lady wood
i know because i was a native to the area and i later workd for delta
metals later in my life i worked at the argile street nechells
the barker and allen was on dudley rd lady wood
even delta havelong gonefrom the site , it is derlict site now
and as been for donkey,s years i beleive it was a good company to
work for and there was a waiting list unless you knew
some-body there ,[ a member of family ]
we have a member on this forum whom can give you more info;;
on barker and allen .the company its self
as i beleive he worked there at the company of barkers - allen
obviously he has not seen your request yet but when he does
i,m sure he will put an input in for you
the other company of rolling metals was in freeth street lady wood
called william morris
best wishes astonian ;;;;
 
izzy eckerslike said:
The world famous Mamod model steam engine makers were based in Camden St. 1949 era. My steam engine has Camden Street on the box altho I think they are now based in Brierley hill


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Sadly Malins Engineers, the owners of 'Mamod' are no longer at Brierly Hill, they have gone through many changes and are now situated on the Summit Rise Industrial Estate, Smethwick. Malins went into liquidation in Winter 1980. I'm currently researching a lot about this old company and keep in contact with Steve Malins who used to work for the firm. I'm currently trying to find out more about the Camden Street Factory which they used from Autumn 1949 until 1962. Before that they were at St Mary's Row from 1938-49.
 
Hi maggs
Just browsing through some old threads regarding Camden street and ickneild street where you mentioniond the chippie with the small
Bag of chips that was an aunt to my. Others family and then you mentioned nickname they had two shops one on ickneild street next to Walter smiths the butchers
Where you could get a breasdt of lamb for a tanner then there hickmans the fruit and veg and wild fowl and rabbits for sale as well

And the other was in king Edwards rd the shop on ickneild street spring hill was sold to said cleggs the pototoe merchants in the whole sale market
For the first six months he only sold spuds of every varirtity very cheap no fruit or veg just sounds and years later he moved on
And a old girl friend of mine from Aberdeen street worked for the new owners and ended up marrying the son theladtiheard they azresome where in weoly castle
Best wishes Alan astonian
 
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