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Burridge - John James

George was Minnie's husband. No idea about John Francis. Minnie Rose had a daughter also Minnie Rose but she married an Alfred Davis. Who is Minnie Bentley?
Janice
 
yes i know george was minnies hubby janice...minnie was marys anns sister i think you said?

have no idea who minnie florence bentley is on the 1935 e rolls but maybe a rellie of mary ann bentley who is on the 1920 e rolls...its at this point my mind has gone blank:D:D:D
 
Yes Minnie is Mary's sister.
Lyn - I am feeling guilty about the time you are spending helping me out but perhaps we need a break and a think before coming back to it. By all means dig a bit but I am sure you must have other things to research. We may never crack this who knows? It is certainly complex. Many many thanks for your help so far.:confused:
Janice
 
oh dont feel quilty janice would not do it if i didnt want to but i think a break is needed...we can always come back to it with a fresh mind...and who knows..someone else may try to unravel this mystery and solve it...fingers crossed:)
 
My.....................I am loving this mystery :)
There is a J.BURREDGE (note spelling) age 27yrs. Labourer arrived Liverpool 12th. November 1905 on the ship OTTAWA having left Montreal Quebec Canada official number 70932. Maybe you already have this.

Keep up the good work ladies
 
Also a John Burridge age 25yrs. Brassfinisher arrives Montreal 18th. June 1905 on the vessel KENSINGTON from Liverpool. Same person???
 
Minnie F Bentley Sep 1913 Bham, mother's maiden name Layland

Lilian E Bentley Sep 1911 Bham, mmn Leyland
 
There are 2 Bentley baptisms on Ancestry with mother Mary Ann, one of them is Lilian Eva.
 
rowan said:
Also a John Burridge age 25yrs. Brassfinisher arrives Montreal 18th. June 1905 on the vessel KENSINGTON from Liverpool. Same person???
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I like this as I know my John was involved in brass work - many thanks. Bit worried about the other one as he is described as a labourer.
Janice
 
thanks MWS and rowan...janice i think rowans john burridge has to be the right one..
 
Morning Lyn. I agree - it is the same ship I found earlier but this entry says "brass worker". That confirms he went in 1905. Now need to sort these Mary Ann entries.
Out most of the morning.
Janice
 
Lilian Eva born 1911 appears to have died in 1912 that is why she does not appear later on. Her parents on the baptism record (19 Aug 1911) are Mary Ann and John (an upholsterer). The address is 3 back 68 Severn Street. I can't access Minnie's baptism as she was born after 1912 and the online records seem to stop then.
Janice
 
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Try John Lattam in 1911.
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Yes I found that see #55 - and I am getting confused by all these John and Mary's with surnames beginning with B and the same address. I think we have two possibilities - the Canada marriage I found is a coincidence; or he came back under a different name. Thanks for the other ref to John Bentley. I can see I will end up having to buy some certificates - just need to think which otherwise it will be very expensive!
Janice
 
Sorry missed that one.

To me it looks like John Burridge married Mary, fathered one or two children then abandoned the family and went to Canada.

Mary subsequently met John Bentley and because she was never divorced they couldn't marry. They had three or four children (if Mary Irene was a Bentley). One surviving.

John died in 1919 and Mary at some stage reverted back to using Burridge (maybe after her daughter married) because that was her legal name.

Latham is not too different from Layland.
 
I think you could be right. No idea about who the father of Mary Irene was except her baptism is as Burridge. It is just why did she have to find another John? Very confusing.
Janice
 
But interesting.

I had a similar problem with a great great grandmother when she and her children were listed under her third husband's name before they were married.
 
Lilian Eva (1912) and John (1919) were both probably buried at Key Hill but looks like common graves as I found other names for the same year in the same grave. (I can now confirm both these are buried in graves with 80+ other people).
Janice
 
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A big thank you to all who helped. I sent for the death certs of John Bentley and Mary Ann Burridge. John's dated 1919 names M A Bentley as the widow of the deceased and the address is .... 44 Blucher Street. Mary Ann's dated 1966 names M F Russell as daughter (I will come to that in a minute) and the address is..... 44 Blucher Street. It lists Mary Ann as the widow of John James Burridge. That means I know I have the right person. In addition (if you have been following!) M F (Minnie Florence) Russell named as daughter must be the Minnie Florence Bentley (also daughter of John Bentley not John Burridge) who, I think, married a Leslie Russell in 1938. This I think confirms that Mary Ann Bentley and Mary Ann Burridge are the same person. Phew. Still don't understand the 1911 entry.
 
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oh that is good news janice...so pleased that you have got this sorted out now....what a great result..you can go and have a rest now lol

lyn
 
Until the next mystery rears its head!! Forgot to say the bit I find intriguing is that my Gran (Mary Ann's sister in law) married a man (obviously my Grandad) who lived at 53 Blucher Street with his spinster sisters who continued to live there for quite a while. I wonder if they knew?
 
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janice that is something we will never know lol...just going to see if i can find my elusive enos:rolleyes:
 
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A big thank you to all who helped. I sent for the death certs of John Bentley and Mary Ann Burridge. John's dated 1919 names M A Bentley as the widow of the deceased and the address is .... 44 Blucher Street. Mary Ann's dated 1966 names M F Russell as daughter (I will come to that in a minute) and the address is..... 44 Blucher Street. It lists Mary Ann as the widow of John James Burridge. That means I know I have the right person. In addition (if you have been following!) M F (Minnie Florence) Russell named as daughter must be the Minnie Florence Bentley (also daughter of John Bentley not James Burridge) who, I think, married a Leslie Russell in 1938. This I think confirms that Mary Ann Bentley and Mary Ann Burridge are the same person. Phew. Still don't understand the 1911 entry.
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Hi Janice, my brother (Clive Leeson) and I (Anne Slinger) have been researching our family history and came across your posts. I am almost certain that you are a second cousin, your dad (Tom) was, I believe our mum's (WInnie's) cousin. Your gran (Ada) being my gran's (Kate's) sister. We were looking at the 2 brothers who went to Canada and realised the stories are similar if not identical. I have some letters written by Jack (John) Burridge in 1938 and 1939 sent to our grandma Kate from Toronto and Montreal. Jack lived in Toronto but visited Joe in Montreal regularly. Jack seems to have been a bit of a lad, rarely in work, enjoyed a drink or several and was the life and soul of any party. Joe on the other hand was very quiet. Joe had 2 daughters (One may have been Kay), Jack refers to 2 boys in his letters but it is not clear if they are his or 'the wife's' as he refers to his other half. 'The wife' regularly gave him money and put up with him despite of everything. You mention that your gran (Ada ) was the ninth of ten children but we were always lead to believe that it went: Tom, JIm, Jack (John), Joe, Walter, Bill, Henry, Annie, Kate and Ada. Making your gran the 10th and our gran the 9th. Anyway, we have only just started this investigation whilst you are much further ahead and have discovered a great deal more but thought you would be interested. Anne
 
Hi Anne - welcome to the forum. I remember you well - Dad, Mom and I (Bernard and Margaret) used to bring my Grandad to see your Grandad (Uncle Walter to me) and your Mom and Dad (Wyn and Henry).
You and I played in the garden.
When I put my laptop on I will check the family tree and send you a private message (called a conversation on here).
I knew your Gran had kept in touch with at least one of the boys in Canada.
Contact you later.
 
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