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Black Country Lorry in Birmingham

The Black Country is an area of the West Midlands, England, west of Birmingham and commonly refers to a region of more than one million people covering most of the four Metropolitan Boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton
 
www.midlandspubs.co.uk said:
Actually, there are some 'purists' that argue Wolverhampton is not in the Black Country. Built on the wool trade, the area had little coal resources and relied on the canals to bring it in to fuel later industry. But ooh-er, this is opening a can of worms ...
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yes quite right keiron...lets stay on toplc please folks as it was only a simple question asked which has been answered

lyn
 
Astoness said:
The Black Country is an area of the West Midlands, England, west of Birmingham and commonly refers to a region of more than one million people covering most of the four Metropolitan Boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton
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thanks lyn
 
Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country. ;)
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
 
Radiorails said:
Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country. ;)
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
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The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.
Here is another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
The two pictures do have a connection which I will explain one day.
PA739
 

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PA739 said:
The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.
Here is another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
The two pictures do have a connection which I will explain one day.
PA739
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The bodies on the HP sauce van and Fred Smith's brewers dray were built by the same company as made the horse drawn carts for Ansells Brewery shown here.
Thomas Startin Jnr., Holland Road, Aston.
I was invited to visit the bodybuilding workshop about 1970, but then, they were only making hearses based on Daimler car chassis and Austin taxi chassis, but still using ash frames and aluminium body panels.
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Radiorails said:
There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
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The threads do not tell you much.
Startins
Radiorails said:
There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
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Didn't learn much from the threads, and know nothing of any connection between Midland Red and Startins, but Startins obviously built some passenger service vehicles (image attached), and the Austin 7 van is mentioned, so have also attached an image of a Startins bodied Austin 7 van.
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As for references to Midland Red you will find many references to Startin and his associates in this long thread. The era concerned is mainly in the early to mid 1920's.

Midland Red Early Days

WELCOME TO THE MIDLAND RED EARLY DAYS (MRED) THREAD! Frontispiece (click to enlarge): Lloyd's "outrageous" 2010 colouring (which turns out to be remarkably historically accurate!) of a Josiah Allen engraving of Dr William Church's 1833 steam carriage. The primaeval Midland Red double-decker...
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Radiorails said:
Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country. ;)
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
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I don't know if it helps but the registration number (partial) is OG 75? the final figure being obliterated, John.
 
Pedrocut said:
1474 posts and over 30 mentions !
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Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.
PA739
 
PA739 said:
Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.
PA739
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My post was to highlight the difficulty in sorting out the posts that refer to Startins in this long thread, and also what relevance they have to question in hand. The info on Startins would be very welcome and may deserve a thread of its own.
 
PA739 said:
Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.
PA739
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This is a friendly Forum which has been going for many years. Most Members try and help with information requests and furthering the history of Birmingham.
A good many of us live no where near Birmingham, in fact many, like me, have never lived there but we enjoy reading the threads and contributing to them when we can. Fora are places where someones intentions can be easily misunderstood, as you seem to have done with that by Pedrocut. Your comment about the Midland Red, appeared dismissive, but there were two ways of reading your comment. I think those posters here accepted that you were new to BHF and a tried to be, withing this Forum's spirit, to further develop the treads information and interest.
 
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