One for the lorry fans - T. Crutchley were based in Wolverhampton but this driver is turning onto the Coventry Road
Actually, there are some 'purists' that argue Wolverhampton is not in the Black Country. Built on the wool trade, the area had little coal resources and relied on the canals to bring it in to fuel later industry. But ooh-er, this is opening a can of worms ...Wolverhampton does and that is where the lorry was from.
Posting at the same time Lyn
NO! How dare you!does birmingham come under the black country?
Actually, there are some 'purists' that argue Wolverhampton is not in the Black Country. Built on the wool trade, the area had little coal resources and relied on the canals to bring it in to fuel later industry. But ooh-er, this is opening a can of worms ...
thanks lynThe Black Country is an area of the West Midlands, England, west of Birmingham and commonly refers to a region of more than one million people covering most of the four Metropolitan Boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton
The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country.
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
The bodies on the HP sauce van and Fred Smith's brewers dray were built by the same company as made the horse drawn carts for Ansells Brewery shown here.The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.
Here is another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
The two pictures do have a connection which I will explain one day.
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The threads do not tell you much.There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
Didn't learn much from the threads, and know nothing of any connection between Midland Red and Startins, but Startins obviously built some passenger service vehicles (image attached), and the Austin 7 van is mentioned, so have also attached an image of a Startins bodied Austin 7 van.There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
I don't know if it helps but the registration number (partial) is OG 75? the final figure being obliterated, John.Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country.
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.1474 posts and over 30 mentions !
Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.
PA739
On Hovis with some sharp cheese...........my lunch almost every day going to school!Another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
PA739
This is a friendly Forum which has been going for many years. Most Members try and help with information requests and furthering the history of Birmingham.Well, from your statistics, its obvious the Forum already has heaps of information about the Startin company, and posting more images from the company's photo collection will be superfluous, so I'll not bother.
PA739