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Black Country Lorry in Birmingham

Astoness

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The Black Country is an area of the West Midlands, England, west of Birmingham and commonly refers to a region of more than one million people covering most of the four Metropolitan Boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton
 

Astoness

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Actually, there are some 'purists' that argue Wolverhampton is not in the Black Country. Built on the wool trade, the area had little coal resources and relied on the canals to bring it in to fuel later industry. But ooh-er, this is opening a can of worms ...
yes quite right keiron...lets stay on toplc please folks as it was only a simple question asked which has been answered

lyn
 

mw0njm.

Brummie Dude
The Black Country is an area of the West Midlands, England, west of Birmingham and commonly refers to a region of more than one million people covering most of the four Metropolitan Boroughs of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton
thanks lyn
 

Radiorails

master brummie
Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country. ;)
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
 

PA739

proper brummie kid
Presumably the HP lorry photograph was taken at the HP works in Aston, which was certainly not in the Black Country. ;)
The body style is similar to that produced by Morris Commercial for the Royal Mail and GPO.
A shame the registration plate does not show.
The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.
Here is another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
The two pictures do have a connection which I will explain one day.
PA739
 

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proper brummie kid
The van body has nothing to do with Morris Commercial.
Here is another picture for the commercial vehicle fans.
The two pictures do have a connection which I will explain one day.
PA739
The bodies on the HP sauce van and Fred Smith's brewers dray were built by the same company as made the horse drawn carts for Ansells Brewery shown here.
Thomas Startin Jnr., Holland Road, Aston.
I was invited to visit the bodybuilding workshop about 1970, but then, they were only making hearses based on Daimler car chassis and Austin taxi chassis, but still using ash frames and aluminium body panels.
PA739
 

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proper brummie kid
There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
The threads do not tell you much.
Startins
There are many threads, including the one below, mentioning various members of the Startin family and their activities. For those interested I recommend a search here on BHF.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/startin-james.34197/#post-360716
This one mentions Thomas Jnr.
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/for...omas-startin-coach-builder.38725/#post-429864
Didn't learn much from the threads, and know nothing of any connection between Midland Red and Startins, but Startins obviously built some passenger service vehicles (image attached), and the Austin 7 van is mentioned, so have also attached an image of a Startins bodied Austin 7 van.
PA739
 

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Radiorails

master brummie
As for references to Midland Red you will find many references to Startin and his associates in this long thread. The era concerned is mainly in the early to mid 1920's.
 
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