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hi brumgum ;
there is alot to be said about brum;the penerlom swings both ways in my mind and i thiink brum as got along ay to go yet before it gets reinstated as a city of flavour i havenever ben to scotland yet ; thou i am planning at some point to do so; and london i know fairly well as i have lived in london and have friends
whom own and runs a club in the posh part of london for many years now
and i have vististed manchester many many times recently two years ago
and i have to say i also favour manchester city for a place to live in
even thou i am a brummie i think the brummie people have lost there way now,
And partly because the older generation of our brummie population have sadly moves away or have passed away and the generations now that are in brum are very sadly dishardened people and un polite to each other and some of the building are a disgrace and its becoming an unsafe place to live and its is a dirty place full of litter if you came to worcstershire you would see the difference of the place well maintained and litter free and no hostillery to each other
even the little kids do not fight each other and the police force is bang on
and as its stated on the BBC from time to time its the cleanest and he safeipart of the country to live in [ sorry if any one is offended [ best wishes Astonian;;
 
Astonian said:
hi brumgum ;
there is alot to be said about brum;the penerlom swings both ways in my mind and i thiink brum as got along ay to go yet before it gets reinstated as a city of flavour i havenever ben to scotland yet ; thou i am planning at some point to do so; and london i know fairly well as i have lived in london and have friends
whom own and runs a club in the posh part of london for many years now
and i have vististed manchester many many times recently two years ago
and i have to say i also favour manchester city for a place to live in
even thou i am a brummie i think the brummie people have lost there way now,
And partly because the older generation of our brummie population have sadly moves away or have passed away and the generations now that are in brum are very sadly dishardened people and un polite to each other and some of the building are a disgrace and its becoming an unsafe place to live and its is a dirty place full of litter if you came to worcstershire you would see the difference of the place well maintained and litter free and no hostillery to each other
even the little kids do not fight each other and the police force is bang on
and as its stated on the BBC from time to time its the cleanest and he safeipart of the country to live in [ sorry if any one is offended [ best wishes Astonian;;
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I do recognize certain aspects of this but this isn't the case in many parts of Brum where community spirit is thriving in areas such as Moseley, Kings Heath and Cotteridge etc that have award winning Farmers Markets and festivals and events almost on a weekly basis organized by local people that are far from disheartened about their communities..

https://cotteridgepark.org.uk/


https://moseleyfarmersmarket.org.uk/

https://www.moseleyfestival.org.uk/



https://www.moseleyforum.org.uk/

https://moseleyinbloom.org.uk/


https://www.b14news.co.uk/birminghams-first-ever-streetfood-market-launches-in-kings-heath/



https://enjoykingsheath.com/

https://digbeth.org/


https://stirchleycommunitymarket.co.uk/



https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/your-communities-big-parade-heading-4710855


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/lifestyle/shopping/independent-traders-take-over-kings-4878446

Brumgum:encouragement:
 
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and finally a picture i took of Moseley Park which is independent and not run by the council but by the people for the people..
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brumgum said:
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and finally a picture i took of Moseley Park which is independent and not run by the council but by the people for the people..
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When you say by the people for the people do you mean for some people.The last time I walked round the park it had locked gates and I happened to to be working on a house that backed on to it, all the houses had gates at the end of their gardens which allowed them to use the park.
 
dek carr said:
When you say by the people for the people do you mean for some people.The last time I walked round the park it had locked gates and I happened to to be working on a house that backed on to it, all the houses had gates at the end of their gardens which allowed them to use the park.
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You can get a fob from Moseley travel Alcester Road for £10 deposit which is returned when you take it back, if you go This Saturday for the festival this isn't the case and every fourth Saturday when the Market is on.

https://www.moseleypark.co.uk/
 
Membership to Moseley Park is £40 a year or £50 if your house back on to the park and you have a private gate, there is also a deposit for the key fob that is returnabe
 
Popped up on Twitter. To have a magazine in New York recommend Birmingham as a tourist attraction has to be worth something. And more Michelin stars than any other city outside London. Viv.
 
Wasn't there a goverment Dept. called The British Tourist Authority supposed to promote, as its name implies, everything British? I imagine it would promote London, The Highands and would not even think of the Second City. If this quango still exists should the UK not be promoted by The British Embassy as well ?It takes a New York news paper to extol Birminham.
 
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Wasn't there a goverment Dept. called The British Tourist Authority supposed to promote, as its name implies, everything British? I imagine it would promote London, The Highands and would not even think of the Second City. If this quango still exists should the UK not be promoted by The British Embassy as well ?It takes a New York news paper to extol Birminham.
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The British Tourist Authority disappeared a long long time ago and is now replaced by separate Boards for each of the UK - Visitscotland for example represents Scottish tourism. They each seem to do a pretty good job for all parts of their respective countries from my experience of them.
 
Wonders why NEC profits cannot now be set aside to help future payments instead of selling the NEC off.

Also - the rest of us are picking up the council bill here again unfortunately.
I dont see why we should have to pay for it - and why should the pay be retrospectively back paid ?
Let the council find the money out of their own coffers - by reducing their own wage bill and getting rid of expensive contractors.
 
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Wonders why NEC profits cannot now be set aside to help future payments instead of selling the NEC off.
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Surely while the NEC itself may be owned by the council the company that runs the NEC is independent.

And they need their profits to reinvest in the business (such as extending the NIA which is going on right now)
 
As is the Norm seemingly these days Birmingham in the news for all the wrong reasons, It was a wonderful city to be brought up in when I was young, very sad .paul
 
Viv, you absolutely right; this is long overdue! Birmingham is a great city, I love this place, it's people, the culture and the heritage. Its out heritage that forms out culture, yet some how the people who make decisions about our heritage and out past, cannot not seem to get it right.

They wanted to rename part of the gun quarter, they shut down the Transport museum and we are honest, out museums could do a lot better when you compare them with those in other city's.

I hope this report just does not end up as the topic of another talking shop, and that we do take some positive steps to promote our past. I will get in touch with councillors Phil Davis, and have a chat about this.
 
I hope the document does come to some fruition.

It seems to me, from a respectable distance of course, that Birmingham has spent far too long trying to find an identity when it had a fantastic one staring it in the face already. A City of a 1000 trades was the slogan I remember seeing after WW2. Many places throughout the country have swept away much of their history but some places manage to make the best of what they have still got. I am sure Birmingham, given the right leadership, can do the same. Even Birmingham, Alabama, took its name from the industrial city in the English Midlands.

It does tend to suggest to me of places where people who have no real roots to the place and are the ones pushing the agenda of change. For instance many years ago, someone, in some position of spokemanship, suggested filling in the harbour of a famous Devon fishing village. That harbour is what the tourists come to see, amongst other things. :friendly_wink:

Mallorca has an old monastery on it northern coast where Chopin lived for only six months. He disliked the place and the inhabitants but the Spanish have made a highly successful tourist attraction of him and the former Monastery. I even made a special trip there to see his piano. :biggrin:
 
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Viv, you absolutely right; this is long overdue! Birmingham is a great city, I love this place, it's people, the culture and the heritage. Its out heritage that forms out culture, yet some how the people who make decisions about our heritage and out past, cannot not seem to get it right.

They wanted to rename part of the gun quarter, they shut down the Transport museum and we are honest, out museums could do a lot better when you compare them with those in other city's.

I hope this report just does not end up as the topic of another talking shop, and that we do take some positive steps to promote our past. I will get in touch with councillors Phil Davis, and have a chat about this.
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on the face of it a great idea...mort i will be interested in any updates you can get for us...

cheers

lyn
 
An observation. Having just typed a Google search for 'heart of the industrial revolution' I find that the only specific references that come up which are B'ham related are this forum (!), the B'ham Post article posted in post #1 and a Wiki reference (although not specifically referring to B'ham as at the heart of the revolution). Many of the other search results are for places claiming to be the 'heart'. It's a bit of an academic debate for sure, but it's definitely time for some serious promotion.

Hopefully there will be a website or some sorting out of internet search words to make sure that B'ham as the heart is up there on page one of search results. You can throw all the money you want at a brand, but if a simple net search doesn't find it you're wasting your time.

Viv.
 
I see the City of Birmingham has a new challenger to second city status. There is the ongoing question of Manchester but this matter of Hebden Bridge is something new. :biggrin:

Whilst Hebden Bridge has its own qualities I still maintain that the rightful place must still stay with Birmingham. The City has traditionally been acknowledged as our second City: newcomers are just tilting at windmills.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26472423
 
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