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master brummie
I reckon Grahpack was a couple of years younger than us Bob but I'm sure I played with or against him somewhere along the line-maybe Sunday football or something
Following on from David re: BGTS team, here's 1 plus the Sunday league team we formed from the VERY successful school team. I notice there's a flying right winger pictured top left on the school photo and again bottom left on the Sunday team. Plus, I have to say, a big butch goalie 4th from the left on the Sunday team. Probably DB!!!
No, no,no…..the tea was BGTSOB and was run by Mr Paterson, Laurie fatherIt was called Redhill United, David.
You are correct. I remember Ian Chandler very well and I played on the Birmingham Basketball team with himyoure right Ian Chandler was his name. Yes i am enjoying the 33degrees at present, classed as cool up here, cant wait for summer lol.
I think you'll agree, or you may not, there is a likeness which is why I thought I might have the right lad in the first placeYou are correct. I remember Ian Chandler very well and I played on the Birmingham Basketball team with him
Just as a contribution.
I went to Pheasey County Secondary Modern which , in fact, iis n Staffordshire. Back in the day as we were (and still is) border landers - we never knew whether to speak Black Country or Brummie - we played in the Aston Schools League. This made complete sense as we were 2 miles or so from the many North Bham schools in (now) Kinsgstanding Birchfield, Beeches etc, while an away fixture in Staffs would have taken us to Aldridge, Walsall, Pelsall etc, a day trip in those days. I cannot recall any honours for the team or individual players, 1959-64.
I was a left half (No 6 for the unknowing) with a Dick Neal (BCFC) attitude to defence and attack. I am sure I still carry life time injuries from those times! I went on to play for some Sunday Festival League youth teams but was never a regular selection despite my exquisite skills as a 'caggy' footer!
So, I took up refereeing and have the honour of sending off a player on 30 seconds of a game for foul and abusive language. Birmingham parks - Aldridge Road, Perry Hall, Perry Barr, Kingstanding etc and no doubt all Birmingham Parks recs., had a strict ruling about bad language in public parks that may influence children to swear and adults to be upset. I officiated in BHam Works (Sat) and Festival League (a.m. and p.m.). Crickey! I must have been fit. Occasionally refereed Wednesday afternoons - markets and showmen teams league. I reached Level 2 but in moving away was unable to tread the path to Wembley or the World Cup and retired gracefully at 24. I did once line at Villa Park back in the day when Villa took on Blues in a City Cup friendly pre-season. No, not lining in this match but a short game of 15 yr olds before the big match. as we finished our game there was 30,000 in the ground. Great experience!
My cousin, however John Ostins - Cardinal Wiseman, the kind of dominating centre half that was around in those days, played for Aston Schools and later played for Aston Villa Amateurs but declined and offer to join Walsall as a pro as he and family felt that the security of a 9-5 job was paramount. John went on to play for clubs in the Festival Sunday
League.
Now, wheres my Thunderer whistle!! (made in Birmingham)
Recognise team member,went to Tile cross then Sir Wilfred.....Brian Faulkner? Front 2nd left.Hi All, this photo would have been 1962 I think. Birmingham Boys u/11 or u/13 cant remember. Three of us from Sheldon Heath comp.in the team.
Yes, Trevor, Mr "Jock" Churchward taught TD at Bordesley Green Tech too. He gave me a (very good) grounding in the subject between September 1959 and July 1963, when I gave it up to study Biology. I always got on very well with Jock although I had no contact with him through football.On the first photo, I think that's Mr George Churchward who taught Technical Drawing at my old school, Bournville Boys' Technical School. I don't think he got on very well with the headmaster Mr 'Bill' Jennings - so he left. Did he teach the same subject at BGTS ?
Which photograph are you referring to, FNQ? Could you add the number of the posting please? (Top right-hand corner of posting, e.g., #334.)Ok , I know most of back row- back left is Trevor Glynn, then Phil Mason, then dont know and dont now then Brian Harrison and Graham Butlin. Then front left dont know, then your guy, then dont know, dont know, then myself and because his name was so different Roger Couldjoe i think
Which photograph are you referring to, FNQ? Could you add the number of the posting please? (Top right-hand corner of posting, e.g., #334.)
Could you put a name to "your guy" please. Thank you, DB
View attachment 75311I have started this thread, as there is no notable history on this subject.Who was in your school team. Whom won the Villa Cup and in what year? Who played in the districted school Representative sides such as B'ham Boys, Erdington Boys, South B'ham Boys, Aston and District Boys. Whom went on to become a pro footballer?
If we don't post this knowledge it will be lost forever, as there is very little or no history on line, there is some detail from the old Mail, Dispatch and Argus kept in the central library but it takes hours to research and find.
I will kick off with my mates school Queensbridge Road who had a great team in 1962 and 1963 when they won the Victoria Shield & South B'ham league 1 in 1962.
I was in the Stags team. Shared the trophy after a 3-3 draw. I was injured weeks before the final but played as didn't want to miss finalView attachment 151523
Just found this in my collection
Yes, correct, we were referring to two different photos, hence my request to set things straight. Amazingly, in your photograph there are three lads who went on to play for various age-group teams at Bordesley Green Technical School. As you so rightly state, both Graham Butlin (and, of course, his elder brother, John) and Paul Coudjoe played there. In your photo, in the first row, kneeling in the centre is a lad who looks very much like Kevin Askey. Does this name ring a bell? He came to my former school too. Thanks for your rapid reply.Sorry maybe we are talking different photos-this is the one to which I was referring which was possibly 1962 but I think you were talking of Bordesley Green Tech ...