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Birmingham Schools Football History / & photos
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Hello Robert or George whoever you are -yes my young memory has gone. Haven't a clue who you are. I don't think your
memory seems too hot either. As I recall I played right-back. Well in my head I did. As for the Catholic Cup that was against
St Anne's ( as I remember ) the pitch was a quagmire, they were used to playing on it, we just couldn't play our football in a mud bath. But as you say we only lost by the single goal. I still have my medals for the Junior Cup & th South B.ham Shield. Pity we never received any medal for winning the league. Still 'MANNERS MAKETH MAN'
Maybe my memory will recover , with time , though I doubt it. Take care
memory seems too hot either. As I recall I played right-back. Well in my head I did. As for the Catholic Cup that was against
St Anne's ( as I remember ) the pitch was a quagmire, they were used to playing on it, we just couldn't play our football in a mud bath. But as you say we only lost by the single goal. I still have my medals for the Junior Cup & th South B.ham Shield. Pity we never received any medal for winning the league. Still 'MANNERS MAKETH MAN'
Maybe my memory will recover , with time , though I doubt it. Take care
Hi David - Worry not I'm not offended by your comments at all. What annoyed me and even after all this time still sticks in my craw is what happened on the so called trial day for the football team. Supervised by the PE master Mr Lunn. Do you remember the trial that was on a Saturday morning at Yardley playing fields. I don't remember the date but we were very new at BG.Tech. Fags . ?
PS are you the David (Harry) that was in 'Grapefruit'?
PS are you the David (Harry) that was in 'Grapefruit'?
db84124
Brummophile
No, Dermot, I'm not.
I - like you - changed my alliance very early on and started playing with the oval ball ….. I didn’t even get to the football trials. Do you remember our rugby-playing mates: John Roche, Mickey Overs, David Yorke, Joe Gaffney, Chris Murphy, Andy Weller et al.? Rochie became a priest and lives in California; Chris Murphy has retired to the south of France; Mickey Overs is fine and still lives in the Midlands.
I’ll send you a personal message with my email address. Got lots of things to say ….. if you’re interested.
Regards, David B.
How many of these can you name? It was taken in about 1967; I played in goal but only as a stand-in. Dave Fowler (he was a year ahead of us at The Tech.) posted this photo in Post #6 on this thread and also sent me a copy. Dave is extreme left, kneeling. Nobby Clarke, extreme right, standing, spent eight days with me in mid-September. He's fine too.
If you type "Bordesley Green Technical School" into the search facility top right, you'll find a thread (five titles down) with 117 posts. db
I - like you - changed my alliance very early on and started playing with the oval ball ….. I didn’t even get to the football trials. Do you remember our rugby-playing mates: John Roche, Mickey Overs, David Yorke, Joe Gaffney, Chris Murphy, Andy Weller et al.? Rochie became a priest and lives in California; Chris Murphy has retired to the south of France; Mickey Overs is fine and still lives in the Midlands.
I’ll send you a personal message with my email address. Got lots of things to say ….. if you’re interested.
Regards, David B.
How many of these can you name? It was taken in about 1967; I played in goal but only as a stand-in. Dave Fowler (he was a year ahead of us at The Tech.) posted this photo in Post #6 on this thread and also sent me a copy. Dave is extreme left, kneeling. Nobby Clarke, extreme right, standing, spent eight days with me in mid-September. He's fine too.
If you type "Bordesley Green Technical School" into the search facility top right, you'll find a thread (five titles down) with 117 posts. db
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bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Nibby the only place you will find history of school's football is if you create it on this site. I also played Representative schools football in 1963 and there is nothing out there with regards Photos or historic text.
There is a Birmingham Schools site but it has no history details.
I did go to the B'ham library and spent a day looking at old Argus and pink reports and local sports news. This can be photoed at a cost.
But any history you have would be best posted to this thread or history will be lost I,m Afraid.
There is a Birmingham Schools site but it has no history details.
I did go to the B'ham library and spent a day looking at old Argus and pink reports and local sports news. This can be photoed at a cost.
But any history you have would be best posted to this thread or history will be lost I,m Afraid.
Re: Birmingham Schools Football History & Photos
jldell
John, I do not know your surname but I am sure I must know you as I played for Wardend for many years in the second team (a happier team than the first). I played in goal being 6-3 inches from about 1952-3 until mid 1960. Sadly many of the lads have passed on, my good friend Arthur Foden died last Xmas and he was there longer than me.
Dave Edwards
jldell
John, I do not know your surname but I am sure I must know you as I played for Wardend for many years in the second team (a happier team than the first). I played in goal being 6-3 inches from about 1952-3 until mid 1960. Sadly many of the lads have passed on, my good friend Arthur Foden died last Xmas and he was there longer than me.
Dave Edwards
Johnny Matthews
Brummie Baby Boomer
Hi Dave
All I recall is that we were Ward End Celtic playing in the Coronation Juvenile League (Under 18's). We were all aged 15 and from Ward End, Erdington and Washwood Heath. We played our home games on the sports field just along from what is now Heartlands Hospital. I can remember playing against teams like Brookfield Colts and Sheldon Heath Social. I wasn't really aware of the background of the club but for all I know, we could have been the junior side for a senior club. My cousin Bob Keef got me to join in 1959 and I played for BGTS on Saturday mornings and Ward End Celtic on Sunday afternoons. Some of the other players names were Micky Black, Kenny Jordan, Ray Fincham, Roger Evans, Jimmy Orr, Keith Bright, Teddy Hopson and Neil Casey. From what you say, I think you may be a few years older than me but I would be interested to know if you still think there may be some connection between our teams.
Cheers
Johnny
All I recall is that we were Ward End Celtic playing in the Coronation Juvenile League (Under 18's). We were all aged 15 and from Ward End, Erdington and Washwood Heath. We played our home games on the sports field just along from what is now Heartlands Hospital. I can remember playing against teams like Brookfield Colts and Sheldon Heath Social. I wasn't really aware of the background of the club but for all I know, we could have been the junior side for a senior club. My cousin Bob Keef got me to join in 1959 and I played for BGTS on Saturday mornings and Ward End Celtic on Sunday afternoons. Some of the other players names were Micky Black, Kenny Jordan, Ray Fincham, Roger Evans, Jimmy Orr, Keith Bright, Teddy Hopson and Neil Casey. From what you say, I think you may be a few years older than me but I would be interested to know if you still think there may be some connection between our teams.
Cheers
Johnny
HI ALL
Just sorting through my pictures from school. Some of you football buffs may be interesed in the following. They are some cuttings from the Argus
Sept-dec 1950, and a cartoon strip done by Len Pardo in feb 1951 while i was playing for South Bham schools against Brierley Hill schools. As it is large
i have sent it in 2 parts. One day i might get back to the ref library to sort out my goal record for the rest of the season
Ken Harris
Just sorting through my pictures from school. Some of you football buffs may be interesed in the following. They are some cuttings from the Argus
Sept-dec 1950, and a cartoon strip done by Len Pardo in feb 1951 while i was playing for South Bham schools against Brierley Hill schools. As it is large
i have sent it in 2 parts. One day i might get back to the ref library to sort out my goal record for the rest of the season
Ken Harris
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bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Great reading Ken I also played for South Birmingham Schools in 1962/63 season, I was an honor to be selected as captain that season. We could have done with you as we played some great football but struggled to get the ball in the net.
50 years ago a lot of my old mates played for Waverly Gramme against Bartley Green school in the final of the Villa Cup. They are having a special luncheon at Villa Park on the 16th of May to celebrate them winning the historic trophy and have found all their players in the final team except for two players that have sadly passed away.
The 2 big problems that both teams above have is that we have no team photos for that year 1963, I searched high and low for any photos of the news papers of the day but found none. We know that photos where taken and would love to see any that any members may have. Have you any photos of schools football of your day? If anybody has some please down load to this thread please as they are very rare.
50 years ago a lot of my old mates played for Waverly Gramme against Bartley Green school in the final of the Villa Cup. They are having a special luncheon at Villa Park on the 16th of May to celebrate them winning the historic trophy and have found all their players in the final team except for two players that have sadly passed away.
The 2 big problems that both teams above have is that we have no team photos for that year 1963, I searched high and low for any photos of the news papers of the day but found none. We know that photos where taken and would love to see any that any members may have. Have you any photos of schools football of your day? If anybody has some please down load to this thread please as they are very rare.
HI BOB
Thanks for your reply. The only 2 pics i have are of the 1949 Bteam ,and the team after i left. The date on the ball should have read 1951-52.
I can not remember any others being taken in the season when i scored my goals,or of South Bham team. After i left school i played for Knowle Town
and Sparkhill Premier in the old West Midland Aliance, and i can not remember one being taken,even when Sparkhill played at Villa Park,things are a
bit different now, they have one taken every week.
KEN
Thanks for your reply. The only 2 pics i have are of the 1949 Bteam ,and the team after i left. The date on the ball should have read 1951-52.
I can not remember any others being taken in the season when i scored my goals,or of South Bham team. After i left school i played for Knowle Town
and Sparkhill Premier in the old West Midland Aliance, and i can not remember one being taken,even when Sparkhill played at Villa Park,things are a
bit different now, they have one taken every week.
KEN
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bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Ken great old photos can you name the players in both photos please?
Hi Bob
Names are as follows 1949 team
B/R Colin Davis, Colin Darby, John Lane Dave Jones, Roy Perrins, Joe Kinman, Steve Pemberton, Mr Thomas
F/R George Haynes, Don Meylin, Ron Westwood, Ken Harris, ????
1951 Team
Gerry Bullock, George Haynes, John Lane, Dave Jones, Ron Westwood, Joe Kinman, Colin Davis, ????
F/R Roy Styler, Mr Bickmore, Trevor Thomas,Fred Woodley, Roy Rabone.
Some of the lads are on both pictures as they left at different times. I do have 2 more photos of 2 teams i played for after leaving
school before i joined Knowle Town, one is of Tyseley Youth Club, we played in a league for Bham youth clubs,the other is of Tynedale FC.
We only played friendly games. Both teams were made up of lads from both Formans Rd and Collage Rd schools .
KEN
Names are as follows 1949 team
B/R Colin Davis, Colin Darby, John Lane Dave Jones, Roy Perrins, Joe Kinman, Steve Pemberton, Mr Thomas
F/R George Haynes, Don Meylin, Ron Westwood, Ken Harris, ????
1951 Team
Gerry Bullock, George Haynes, John Lane, Dave Jones, Ron Westwood, Joe Kinman, Colin Davis, ????
F/R Roy Styler, Mr Bickmore, Trevor Thomas,Fred Woodley, Roy Rabone.
Some of the lads are on both pictures as they left at different times. I do have 2 more photos of 2 teams i played for after leaving
school before i joined Knowle Town, one is of Tyseley Youth Club, we played in a league for Bham youth clubs,the other is of Tynedale FC.
We only played friendly games. Both teams were made up of lads from both Formans Rd and Collage Rd schools .
KEN
HI ROBERTHere are the pictures and names as you asked for. TYNDALE FC
B/R Jim Mulvale, Colin Davis,Roy Partlett,Harry Gillette, Trevor Thomas, Malcome Salmons
F/R Roy Rabone, John Rabone,Maurice Underhill,??? ME KEN
TYSELEY Y.C Back Row ?Grattidge{trainer} Len Westwood{manager}Brian Goode
m/row Roy Kesterton John Lane, Colin Darby,Ron Westwood,John Mulvale
f/r Jim Mulvale, Trevor Thomas,ME, Harry Gillette,John Rabone, Billy Finnaghan
Hope this helps
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Hello Ken.
I know Harry Gillette from years ago from working at Met Cam...he's still on the go,he lives in Castle Bromwich now.
HI Dereckw
Thanks for your reply. I have not seen Harry since we all got called up for n/s, although i spoke to him on the phone many
years ago. We were having a school and team reunion but he did not come along. Should you see him ,give him my best wishes.
It is amazing how the same faces were on the different teams. I still see some of them at least once a year as some of us from our class
from Formans Rd still have a meet up, and keep intouch via this modern technology.
KEN
Thanks for your reply. I have not seen Harry since we all got called up for n/s, although i spoke to him on the phone many
years ago. We were having a school and team reunion but he did not come along. Should you see him ,give him my best wishes.
It is amazing how the same faces were on the different teams. I still see some of them at least once a year as some of us from our class
from Formans Rd still have a meet up, and keep intouch via this modern technology.
KEN
Hi All
Iam reposting this picture once again. In it my late uncle Fred Harris is seated on the front row sporting a different cap to the others.
The reason was that he had played for the Bham district, and the others only for South Bham schools team. This picture is the only proof
that he had been awarded it. After the picture was taken he left school and went down Formans Rd and caught the tram into Brum
to show his mom ,who used to sell the Bham Mail in the town, to help support here 6 children as she was a widow. On leaving the
tram he left the cap on it, never to be seen again. The county would not replace it. My question is ,did anyone get a cap for playing
for the district??? or has one from an old relative. When i played for South Bham in 1950-51 we did not get anything.
KEN Harris
Iam reposting this picture once again. In it my late uncle Fred Harris is seated on the front row sporting a different cap to the others.
The reason was that he had played for the Bham district, and the others only for South Bham schools team. This picture is the only proof
that he had been awarded it. After the picture was taken he left school and went down Formans Rd and caught the tram into Brum
to show his mom ,who used to sell the Bham Mail in the town, to help support here 6 children as she was a widow. On leaving the
tram he left the cap on it, never to be seen again. The county would not replace it. My question is ,did anyone get a cap for playing
for the district??? or has one from an old relative. When i played for South Bham in 1950-51 we did not get anything.
KEN Harris
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bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Ken I am not sure when they stopped giving those loverly adorable caps with tassels, as in 1962/63 season I received 2 badges which I still cherish one for South B'ham Schools and the other for Warwickshire Schools which I presume superseded the B'ham District team, I would have preferred a cap to a badge.
What a fantastic team they where at Formans Road to win all those famous Schools Football Trophies, I wonder are all those trophies still played for??
Bob Summers
What a fantastic team they where at Formans Road to win all those famous Schools Football Trophies, I wonder are all those trophies still played for??
Bob Summers
Bob
You must remember that a lot of the schools that took part in the competitions are no longer there, and those that are may not play football.
By the way Formans Rd won the Villa cup 1926/27/and 28 ,that came from my dad years ago. Ihave just posted a new picture on the site
Football Teams that are no longer here.
KEN
You must remember that a lot of the schools that took part in the competitions are no longer there, and those that are may not play football.
By the way Formans Rd won the Villa cup 1926/27/and 28 ,that came from my dad years ago. Ihave just posted a new picture on the site
Football Teams that are no longer here.
KEN
bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
These are still my mates that won the Villa Cup in 1963 and what they are doing on the same date 50 years latter to the day to celebrate their Victory over Bartley Green School, Is there anyone on the forum who played for Bartley Green School??
VILLA CUP
WINNERS
50TH ANNIVERSARY
1963
MAY 16TH 2013
Calling Messrs Ansell, Copson, Deathridge, Hardwick, Ladrooke, Parker, Roberts, Rowbotham, Simmonds, Ward, Wharton, Worrall (Sadly Messrs Barnet and Coupland are no longer with us)
May 16th 2013 is the 50th anniversary of a very talented Waverley Grammar school Senior Team winning the Villa Cup, the culmination of three years of brilliant success! You of course were a part of this success.
However, there’s something missing to remember that great event at Villa Park – a team photograph!
We can put that right and there’s not a better date to do it on than the 50th anniversary on May 16th.
The plan (final details yet to be published) is for us to meet up on the morning of the 16th, go on a brief visit to the old Camp Hill and Waverley Road schools, and then onto Villa Park where we shall have lunch and have our photograph taken with the original trophy.
Camp Hill, Waverley Road and Aston Villa have all been contacted and kindly agreed to participate.
THIS IS A ONE OFF THAT CAN NEVER BE REPEATED!
VILLA CUP
WINNERS
50TH ANNIVERSARY
1963
MAY 16TH 2013
Calling Messrs Ansell, Copson, Deathridge, Hardwick, Ladrooke, Parker, Roberts, Rowbotham, Simmonds, Ward, Wharton, Worrall (Sadly Messrs Barnet and Coupland are no longer with us)
May 16th 2013 is the 50th anniversary of a very talented Waverley Grammar school Senior Team winning the Villa Cup, the culmination of three years of brilliant success! You of course were a part of this success.
However, there’s something missing to remember that great event at Villa Park – a team photograph!
We can put that right and there’s not a better date to do it on than the 50th anniversary on May 16th.
The plan (final details yet to be published) is for us to meet up on the morning of the 16th, go on a brief visit to the old Camp Hill and Waverley Road schools, and then onto Villa Park where we shall have lunch and have our photograph taken with the original trophy.
Camp Hill, Waverley Road and Aston Villa have all been contacted and kindly agreed to participate.
THIS IS A ONE OFF THAT CAN NEVER BE REPEATED!
Hi BOB
Can you answer this question, you played for Waverley and South Bham. When i played 10 years previous these were the teams in South Bham.
Dennis RD,Collage Rd,Golden Hillock,Acocks Green,Pitmaston,Heartfield Crescent,Yardley Wood,Billsley and Formans RD.
When did Waverley become part of the South Bham group. Did they join as a new team ,or were they part of East Bham previous???
KEN
Can you answer this question, you played for Waverley and South Bham. When i played 10 years previous these were the teams in South Bham.
Dennis RD,Collage Rd,Golden Hillock,Acocks Green,Pitmaston,Heartfield Crescent,Yardley Wood,Billsley and Formans RD.
When did Waverley become part of the South Bham group. Did they join as a new team ,or were they part of East Bham previous???
KEN
bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Ken
my mates played for Waverley Grammer School and mostly also my 1st Junior side South Yardley Armatures whom used to be the oldest Birmingham junior league team.
I went to Dennis Road Sec Mod. Sorry for any confussion!
PS. Ken I did meet your father Fred quite a few times over the years.
my mates played for Waverley Grammer School and mostly also my 1st Junior side South Yardley Armatures whom used to be the oldest Birmingham junior league team.
I went to Dennis Road Sec Mod. Sorry for any confussion!
PS. Ken I did meet your father Fred quite a few times over the years.
